Blind Man Turned Away From Restaurant
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"A blind man was allegedly turned away from an Indian restaurant - because the owner said it was against his Muslim beliefs to allow dogs into his establishment.
Alun Elder-Brown, who was among a party of birthday guests, said he was even threatened with a police call if his guide dog Finn didn’t leave – despite showing an animal permit.
The 51-year-old sales executive is now planning to sue the Kirthon Restaurant in affluent Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
If a court finds they breached the Disability Discrimination Act, bosses could be forced to pay him compensation.
Mr Elder-Brown said today: ‘It was humiliating and degrading, especially as there were a lot of people around me.
'They told me we couldn’t come in because it was against their religious beliefs to have a dog in the restaurant."
I wonder if their religious beliefs prevent them selling you alcohol?
"A blind man was allegedly turned away from an Indian restaurant - because the owner said it was against his Muslim beliefs to allow dogs into his establishment.
Alun Elder-Brown, who was among a party of birthday guests, said he was even threatened with a police call if his guide dog Finn didn’t leave – despite showing an animal permit.
The 51-year-old sales executive is now planning to sue the Kirthon Restaurant in affluent Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
If a court finds they breached the Disability Discrimination Act, bosses could be forced to pay him compensation.
Mr Elder-Brown said today: ‘It was humiliating and degrading, especially as there were a lot of people around me.
'They told me we couldn’t come in because it was against their religious beliefs to have a dog in the restaurant."
I wonder if their religious beliefs prevent them selling you alcohol?
Didn't a B&B owner lose a case a few years back, when he wouldn't let gay couples stay in his house as it was against his religious beliefs.
Given the existence of the DDA, these guys have no chance.
Unbelievable position too; the UK is just about the only country which is dog-squeamish (surprising, given how much our nation loves our canine friends). Go anywhere round Europe and you'll see dogs in supermarkets and restaurants. I can't believe that out in the Asian sub-continent, they have clipboard-wielding Environmental Health officers and 'no dogs' rules; whatever their religion.
Given the existence of the DDA, these guys have no chance.
Unbelievable position too; the UK is just about the only country which is dog-squeamish (surprising, given how much our nation loves our canine friends). Go anywhere round Europe and you'll see dogs in supermarkets and restaurants. I can't believe that out in the Asian sub-continent, they have clipboard-wielding Environmental Health officers and 'no dogs' rules; whatever their religion.
Muntu said:
Ah, but tis only a tiny minority etc etc. One restaurant in millions.
indeed, but still interesting to see where the law stands on this one. does disability trump religion or the other way around.Essentially this comes down to Which is more important!
I personally would go with the side of disability every time, but thats just me.
Edited by davido140 on Tuesday 16th December 19:12
davido140 said:
Muntu said:
Ah, but tis only a tiny minority etc etc. One restaurant in millions.
indeed, but still interesting to see where the law stands on this one. does disability trump religion or the other way around.Essentially this comes down to Which is more important!
I personally would go with the side of disability every time, but thats just me.
Edited by davido140 on Tuesday 16th December 19:12
davido140 said:
Muntu said:
Ah, but tis only a tiny minority etc etc. One restaurant in millions.
indeed, but still interesting to see where the law stands on this one.There isn't much scope for manouvre legally, and personally I would have no problem with guide dogs, or other dogs for that matter- I absolutely love dogs.
However from a personal point of view, I don't think that they should be required to let dogs in if they don't want to, whether that be because of religion or just plain dislike of them. The bit which people seemed to have missed is that they didn't refuse him entry, but just the dog.
Once again, I personally would welcomed both in, however this does seem to be a bit of a cache 22 between personal belief and disabled rights.
However from a personal point of view, I don't think that they should be required to let dogs in if they don't want to, whether that be because of religion or just plain dislike of them. The bit which people seemed to have missed is that they didn't refuse him entry, but just the dog.
Once again, I personally would welcomed both in, however this does seem to be a bit of a cache 22 between personal belief and disabled rights.
davido140 said:
Disability Discrimination Vs Religious Descrimination...
Which one wins?
Quite interested to hear the outcome of this, if the chap looses it would seem you can tell a bloke in a wheelchair "f
k of wheels, you aint coming in" so long as he's not a muslim.
No question at all. Eaterie loses, big time. One minority who imagine they have rights, against another who have clear laws and precedent in their favour. Non story.Which one wins?
Quite interested to hear the outcome of this, if the chap looses it would seem you can tell a bloke in a wheelchair "f
k of wheels, you aint coming in" so long as he's not a muslim.And Allah spake from on high and said, "Oi, Muhammed, whatever you do, don't let a dog into your restaurant. It's nasty and it would piss me off. Oh, and if one gets in then you need to make it leave, like really quick. As long as it doesn't stay longer than, what, ten-score seconds you should be OK. Otherwise I'll have you. Next sermon tomorrow. Same time, same place."
Edited by carmonk on Tuesday 16th December 19:25
Who the hell do these blind bds think they are? They swan about with their "free" dogs all day, scrounging benefits and living in subsidised council houses. The rules clearly don't apply to these bone idle sightless c**ts. Any restaurant owner has the right to refuse service to who he likes without reason, so i back the curry house manager 100%.
Really, you couldn't make it up could you, Britain has finally gone to the dogs, so to speak.
ds think they are? They swan about with their "free" dogs all day, scrounging benefits and living in subsidised council houses. The rules clearly don't apply to these bone idle sightless c**ts. Any restaurant owner has the right to refuse service to who he likes without reason, so i back the curry house manager 100%.Really, you couldn't make it up could you, Britain has finally gone to the dogs, so to speak.
Ganglandboss said:
The 51-year-old sales executive is now planning to sue the Kirthon Restaurant in affluent Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
Whilst I agree entirely he was badly treated and that he should've been allowed in. I lost a bit of sympathy at this point. You established the restaurant was managed by bell-ends, go eat somewhere else. It was a lucky escape, if anything. To sue them isn't the answer.Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff