Borrowing by HMG
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eldar

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25,270 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Our esteemed government thinks they way to get out of the crisis caused, at least partly, by unwise borrowing and lending is by borrowing more.

I calculate that the increase in borrowing will be £95 per week for every person in the uk, every week for the next 2 years.

I'm not sure I understand this. Interest rates are low, so who is going to lend this. How would someone be able to borrow to buy a house, car or flat screen telly if the government (not just ours) is hoovering up all the money?

Can someone explain how this cunning plan is supposed to work? It seems rather illogical to me.

Wicker Man

867 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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eldar said:
It seems rather illogical to me.
Me too! But then our government did flog of all it's gold and bought paper dollars instead. weeping

Piginapoke

5,994 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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eldar said:
Our esteemed government thinks they way to get out of the crisis caused, at least partly, by unwise borrowing and lending is by borrowing more.

I calculate that the increase in borrowing will be £95 per week for every person in the uk, every week for the next 2 years.

I'm not sure I understand this. Interest rates are low, so who is going to lend this. How would someone be able to borrow to buy a house, car or flat screen telly if the government (not just ours) is hoovering up all the money?

Can someone explain how this cunning plan is supposed to work? It seems rather illogical to me.
The question is, what chance is there of the UK Govt defaulting on loan repayments in future years? Then it all kicks off

moles

1,858 posts

273 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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If they do and the £ becomes worthless, what happens to mortgages and company valuations I presume they do not wipe the debt?.

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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I'm amazed there are people willing to lend Gordon the cash. Would you trust him to pay it back?

Dunk76

4,350 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Fittster said:
I'm amazed there are people willing to lend Gordon the cash. Would you trust him to pay it back?
It's all one big CDS though isn't it?

It's not Gordo which will default, it's Call-me-Dave...

Clever Gordo.

It's what will save the Labour party from political oblivion.

Puggit

49,794 posts

277 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Even more worrying:

Guardian said:
In particular, voters are sceptical of the opposition's ability to handle the economy. Asked to compare Cameron and Gordon Brown on a series of characteristics, Brown pulls ahead by 11 points as the person most likely to get the economy back on track. He scores 35% against 24% for Cameron.
Guardian Link

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Puggit said:
Even more worrying:

Guardian said:
leftie rubbish
Nothing new there then, don't worry about it. Only Guardian readers could be so naive as to think that Gordon is safe with money, let alone sharp objects.

Dunk76

4,350 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Puggit said:
Even more worrying:

Guardian said:
leftie rubbish
Nothing new there then, don't worry about it. Only Guardian readers could be so naive as to think that Gordon is safe with money, let alone sharp objects.
Yup

'according to a poll commissioned by a left wing rag on whether a leftie government could borrow it's way out of trouble, conducted in a coal mining town in the North...'