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As nice as they are, I'm not 100% sure that these bad boys are road legal or MOT friendly. This may be something to bear in mind if you are planning on removing the std recoil 3 pointers.
I think all road safety restraints have to have a release mech which have the same fixed semantics, i.e red button that can only be depressed for release. Hence the current popular fitments of Scroth's.
I think all road safety restraints have to have a release mech which have the same fixed semantics, i.e red button that can only be depressed for release. Hence the current popular fitments of Scroth's.
According to my reading of the MOT requirements - although I'm not an expert - the requirement is for a 3-point belt, but not necessarily inertia-reel type:
http://www.ukmot.com/5-1.asp#Text_top
Presumably a 4-point belt is acceptable as it has more than 3 anchorage points.
CE marking might help in the case of any compliance questions, I guess?
http://www.ukmot.com/5-1.asp#Text_top
Presumably a 4-point belt is acceptable as it has more than 3 anchorage points.
CE marking might help in the case of any compliance questions, I guess?
Edited by tlracing on Thursday 18th December 12:41
L4URA said:
Sorry should point out these are not road legal as all road legal harnesses need to have a red push button release. They are however ideal for track use!
Not correct. They just can't have a catch which can be accidentally undone. Some of the Scroth harnesses have a disc type release mechanism, which is road legal. Interesting anomaly here!
VOSA say there is no specific requirement for the MOT, but EC Directive 77/541/EEC states:
"2.4.2.2. The buckle, even when not under load, shall remain closed, whatever its position. It must not be possible to release it with a force less than 1 daN.
The buckle shall be so designed as to be easy to use and to grasp. It shall be capable of being released when under the load specified in 2.7.9.2.
The buckle shall be released by pressing either a button or a similar device. The surface to which this pressure is applied must have the following dimensions with the button in the release position and when projected into a plane perpendicular to the button's initial direction of motion:
— for enclosed devices, an area of not less than 4,5 cm2 and a width of not less than 15 mm,
— for non-enclosed devices, an area of not less than 2,5 cm2 and a width of not less than 10 mm.
This area shall be coloured red. No other part of the buckle shall be of this colour."
VOSA say there is no specific requirement for the MOT, but EC Directive 77/541/EEC states:
"2.4.2.2. The buckle, even when not under load, shall remain closed, whatever its position. It must not be possible to release it with a force less than 1 daN.
The buckle shall be so designed as to be easy to use and to grasp. It shall be capable of being released when under the load specified in 2.7.9.2.
The buckle shall be released by pressing either a button or a similar device. The surface to which this pressure is applied must have the following dimensions with the button in the release position and when projected into a plane perpendicular to the button's initial direction of motion:
— for enclosed devices, an area of not less than 4,5 cm2 and a width of not less than 15 mm,
— for non-enclosed devices, an area of not less than 2,5 cm2 and a width of not less than 10 mm.
This area shall be coloured red. No other part of the buckle shall be of this colour."
RichQuy said:
So am I right in thinking from the above that the Luke harnesses sold by Hangar111 are NOT M.O.T friendly??
Bit un-nerving as mine have been fitted for quite a while, plus have removed the inertia belts, and its passed M.O.T's fine.
See above. VOSA, who administer the MOT system, do not state any requirement other than it has belts that are in good condition and that the buckle (or whatever) works.Bit un-nerving as mine have been fitted for quite a while, plus have removed the inertia belts, and its passed M.O.T's fine.
The EC Directive states that the release button has to be red, so get down to Ryman for some of those sticky red circles!
R.P.M said:
As nice as they are, I'm not 100% sure that these bad boys are road legal or MOT friendly. This may be something to bear in mind if you are planning on removing the std recoil 3 pointers.
I think all road safety restraints have to have a release mech which have the same fixed semantics, i.e red button that can only be depressed for release. Hence the current popular fitments of Scroth's.
I have 4 point in mine and have passed all the MOTs with out any probs.I think all road safety restraints have to have a release mech which have the same fixed semantics, i.e red button that can only be depressed for release. Hence the current popular fitments of Scroth's.
bogie said:
just stick to the Schroth Profi ASMs then with red button, as OE fitment from Lotus ...cant see any reason to fit anything else myself, theyve been crash tested with the car and proven to work just fine and are MOT legal
They've certainly been tested and proven by you! If I was buying another set of harnesses, I would unquestionably choose yours :-)Gassing Station | Elise/Exige/Europa/340R | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff