I Guess Colin Stagg WAS Innocent Then......
I Guess Colin Stagg WAS Innocent Then......
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jshell

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12,056 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Man finally admits to the killing of Rachel Nickell. Colin Stagg gets £700,000 payout.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/...

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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bring back hanging, that's what I say

mechsympathy

58,630 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
yesIt would have saved £700k for starters.

jshell

Original Poster:

12,056 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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mechsympathy said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
yesIt would have saved £700k for starters.
Ooh, that's bad! Actually, it does show the death penalty in a bad light, as Stagg would likely have been topped.....regardless of the cost/benefit analysis!

Apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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mechsympathy said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
yesIt would have saved £700k for starters.
Bit more than that I should think if you add on the time wasted pursuing Stagg and the 'set up' that was supposed to have occured

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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erm, no

the same investigation would have taken place and Stagg's family would still be able to sue

just we wouldn't know about the real killer

hmm, so we would have saved the money

Edited by hugoagogo on Thursday 18th December 15:25

JJCW

2,449 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
what if we'd hung Stagg.. and killed an innocent man?

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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JJCW said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
what if we'd hung Stagg.. and killed an innocent man?
that's my point

for the irony-intolerant

ypauly

15,137 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
JJCW said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
what if we'd hung Stagg.. and killed an innocent man?
that's my point

for the irony-intolerant
I know I usually ask stupid questions........

How do the police get so much evidence on an innocent man? I mean at the time of the trial there was loads.
Is it a case of find the man you think did it and see if you can build the case before the trial?

Mad Man

203 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Why all the fuss about how we might have hung Stagg?

Correct me if I am wrong but he was never convicted, the trial was thrown out as the evidence they based it on was ruled inadmissable.

The same result would have happened regardless of what sentancing options the judge had available to him so he would never have been hung anyway.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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I'd be fking pissed if that happened to me, some suspects spend half their lifetime in prison falsely accused.

I'd be happy with £700k after a year in prison though.

JJCW

2,449 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
I'd be fking pissed if that happened to me, some suspects spend half their lifetime in prison falsely accused.

I'd be happy with £700k after a year in prison though.
i'm not sure i would, i'd probably never get a decent job again

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Mad Man said:
The same result would have happened regardless of what sentancing options the judge had available to him so he would never have been hung anyway.
fair point, well made wink

MaximumJed

745 posts

261 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
erm, no

the same investigation would have taken place and Stagg's family would still be able to sue

just we wouldn't know about the real killer

hmm, so we would have saved the money
Wouldn't Stagg himself still be alive and able to sue?

BBC News article said:
In 1994, Colin Stagg, from Roehampton, south-west London, went on trial for the murder, but the case was thrown out after evidence from an undercover policewoman was ruled inadmissible.
Too slow frown

Edited by MaximumJed on Thursday 18th December 15:48

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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JJCW said:
Mc Lovin said:
I'd be fking pissed if that happened to me, some suspects spend half their lifetime in prison falsely accused.

I'd be happy with £700k after a year in prison though.
i'm not sure i would, i'd probably never get a decent job again
I would hope that they would erase this from my criminal record, considering they where in the wrong and i was innocent!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

274 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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jshell said:
mechsympathy said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
yesIt would have saved £700k for starters.
Ooh, that's bad! Actually, it does show the death penalty in a bad light, as Stagg would likely have been topped.....regardless of the cost/benefit analysis!
He seems a bit weird anyway.

The real issue is that if the Police had got the right person in the first place they would have prevented him committing further murders.

Apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Didn't the police spend an inordinate amount of time on Stagg, even setting up a honey trap?

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
JJCW said:
hugoagogo said:
bring back hanging, that's what I say
what if we'd hung Stagg.. and killed an innocent man?
that's my point

for the irony-intolerant
Devil's advocate...but is a 14 year old case relevant to today's technical advances? Napper's dna was identified from the scene because of these advances..if it had happened today then Napper would have been in the frame along with Stagg...if you get my drift...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
I'd be fking pissed if that happened to me, some suspects spend half their lifetime in prison falsely accused.

I'd be happy with £700k after a year in prison though.
would make your whole week if not year

yes

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Apache said:
Didn't the police spend an inordinate amount of time on Stagg, even setting up a honey trap?
Read a book called the Jigsaw Man...it has lots of cases in it....quite an interesting bit about this..