Lockerbie - 20 years on.

[bob1179]

Well 20 years after this fateful night there are still many unresolved questions, especially about the bloke currently serving in prison over it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotl...

I remember the night very well even though I was only 9. My dad worked with part of the Search and Rescue team and spent a lot of time after the event up there.

RIP to all those poor souls who lost their lives that night.

[Eric Mc]

I still have the breaking news reports on VHS tape somewhere.

[sa_20v]

Amazing, it seems like yesterday.

Did anyone else read about the two people onboard (one possibly flight crew) who may have survived the incident had they been attended to quickly? I also read the plane is now sat in a scrapyard near a popular karting track somewhere - you would have thought it would have been melted down by now...

All very sad.

[Cara Van Man]

It was my first year in the forces and I was heading home on Xmas leave....I remember sitting in the back of a matews car as we drove round the M25 past Heathrow and looking up at the aircraft as they took off over me.

When I got home and found this had just happened it was shocking, I've always wondered if I'd seen all those innocents flying to their deaths as the take off time was the time w'ed been driving past.

Some of the lads got pinged for 'crash and smash', they had some stories to tell after.

Incidentally, they wreckage is stored not far from where I live.

[bob1179]

I do recall that there were a couple of initial survivors but due to massive injuries they passed away. I don't know if they could have been saved by any attending paramedics.

If you are going to survive a crash in an aircraft, a widebody jet like a 747 is your best bet as they essentially have large crumple zones to absorb the initial impact with the ground.
One example of this is the JAL 747 that went down in 1985, there were many survivors, but due to the remoteness of the crash site, by the time rescuers got to the scene, most of them had died due to a combination of their injuries and exposure.

Very sad indeed.

[Cara Van Man]

sa_20v said:

I also read the plane is now sat in a scrapyard near a popular karting track somewhere

It is. I've seen exactly where it is.

[bob1179]

Here is the scrappy, sorry it's a Daily Wail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490284/19-...

[karona]

bob1179 said:

Well 20 years after this fateful night there are still many unresolved questions, especially about the bloke currently serving in prison over it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotl...

I remember the night very well even though I was only 9. My dad worked with part of the Search and Rescue team and spent a lot of time after the event up there.

RIP to all those poor souls who lost their lives that night.

I probably worked beside your dad that night. I was a firefighter, now retired, using a thermal imaging camera to find signs of life.

That night will haunt me for ever.

There was an up-side, I met my the girl who was to become my wife there, 20 years ago today.

Keith

[g_attrill]

Slightly newer article from DM:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1098300...

Article in today's people about the scrapyard owner's son allegedly selling parts:

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=lockerbie...

[Ferg]

I flew to the States on Pan-Am 103 in 1985, when it came down it did send a shiver. For better or worse I couldn't recall the name of the 'plane that took us.

[Mr Trophy]

How many people died?

[ChrisRS]

bob1179 said:

Here is the scrappy, sorry it's a Daily Wail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490284/19-...

Bit off topic but is that a Ferrari 400 in the fore ground of the photo?

[Ferg]

Mr Trophy said:

How many people died?

270

Edited to add ground casualties..

Edited by Ferg on Sunday 21st December 11:29

[sniff diesel]

ChrisRS said:

bob1179 said:

Here is the scrappy, sorry it's a Daily Wail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-490284/19-...

Bit off topic but is that a Ferrari 400 in the fore ground of the photo?

Looks like it to me.

[King Herald]

bob1179 said:

I do recall that there were a couple of initial survivors but due to massive injuries they passed away. I don't know if they could have been saved by any attending paramedics......


......Very sad indeed.

Oxygen starvation and the freezing cold would have taken it's toll I guess, as I believe the plane busted wide open after the explosion, but what a horrific experience it must have been if they remained conscious on the way down.

Indeed a sad event, and just a real shame that the big players seem to intent on blaming just anybody they can, rather than finding the guilty parties.