To charge or not to charge, that is the question?
To charge or not to charge, that is the question?
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TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...

AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

258 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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That could get rather interesting, he shouldn't be charged for anything from how the article puts it. He should also get an apology from the chap making the complaint!

SS HSV

9,646 posts

287 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Northumberland Gazette said:
But the 52-year-old publican said he was stunned to learn that the complaint had been made by an off-duty senior police officer from Nottinghamshire, who was on holiday in the region when he paid a visit to the Black Bull the previous Friday night.

Mr Mailer said: "This chap was in with a friend and their respective wives for a drink, and I had a chat with them. It was their first time in Northumberland.
Always on duty even when having a pint 'on holiday' rolleyes

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Given the lack of information in the article I'm disinclined to vote smile

karona

1,928 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...
Posting hypothetically, because I know nothing about the material that was seized by police, but "Took it all away" suggests it was more than just a couple of clippings.
Seeing a single paper with a racist headline suggests nothing about the political tendencies of the paper's editor, but plastering the walls with dozens of racially provocative clippings paints its own picture of the landlords thinking.

Pick any minority group you like, if they were to feel uncomfortable in a public place decorated with racially provocative material then, in today's PC world, an offence has been committed, and the landlord's fitness to hold a bar licence is questionable.

Keith

BIG BAVARIAN

452 posts

239 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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if i saw something on somebody's wall i found offensive, i would turn round and leave,end of ,his views are his own,to call in the P.C police is just a waste of time and resources, imho

stuthemong

2,532 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...
Ffs, we've been over this how many times now? The answer is A! wink

TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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stuthemong said:
TWSTEEL said:
I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...
Ffs, we've been over this how many times now? The answer is A! wink
So what happens to the purveyors of this offensive materiial?

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

216 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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George Orwell was right.

What boils my piss about things like this is that it's so far removed from the way we think over here in Americaland.

Before you rip into me for that, remember that back in the late 1700s we only revolted because we wanted the same treatment and respect as the English, and therefore created our society to mimic the ideals of British society.

Said policeman should be dragged into the street and shot. That Pub Landlord, IMNSHO, should have the right to put up Combat 18 posters if he wants to.

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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karona said:
TWSTEEL said:
I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...
Posting hypothetically, because I know nothing about the material that was seized by police, but "Took it all away" suggests it was more than just a couple of clippings.
Seeing a single paper with a racist headline suggests nothing about the political tendencies of the paper's editor, but plastering the walls with dozens of racially provocative clippings paints its own picture of the landlords thinking.

Pick any minority group you like, if they were to feel uncomfortable in a public place decorated with racially provocative material then, in today's PC world, an offence has been committed, and the landlord's fitness to hold a bar licence is questionable.

Keith
I agree, without knowing the nature and scale of the clippings it is difficult to judge. It would be very easy to create an atmosphere, just using clippings from papers in which a black or asian person would feel very unwelcome and possibly threatened. I wonder how many non-white regulars he has?

robinhood21

31,116 posts

261 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Article said:
About 90 per cent of them were clippings taken directly from national newspapers
Not knowing what the other 10 per cent comprised of...

TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Prof Beard said:
karona said:
TWSTEEL said:
I hope this doesn't get silly and turn into a slanging match but

1) Do you think he'll be charged?

2) If not will it make the national news?

3) If charged, should all of the newsagents who sold the newspapers be charged as well?

http://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/Landlo...
Posting hypothetically, because I know nothing about the material that was seized by police, but "Took it all away" suggests it was more than just a couple of clippings.
Seeing a single paper with a racist headline suggests nothing about the political tendencies of the paper's editor, but plastering the walls with dozens of racially provocative clippings paints its own picture of the landlords thinking.

Pick any minority group you like, if they were to feel uncomfortable in a public place decorated with racially provocative material then, in today's PC world, an offence has been committed, and the landlord's fitness to hold a bar licence is questionable.

Keith
I agree, without knowing the nature and scale of the clippings it is difficult to judge. It would be very easy to create an atmosphere, just using clippings from papers in which a black or asian person would feel very unwelcome and possibly threatened. I wonder how many non-white regulars he has?
Are you for real?

Warkworth is famed for it's "Who has the most toes?" competition.

Remember the pub scene at the start of An American Werewolf In London........................................................

Sorry Warkworth - I love the place really - just couldn't resist rolleyes

minimoog

7,395 posts

248 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Captain Cadillac said:
Said policeman should be dragged into the street and shot.
A measured and proportional response from our merkin correspondent there. Have you considered a job in the London Met?

TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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minimoog said:
Captain Cadillac said:
Said policeman should be dragged into the street and shot.
A measured and proportional response from our merkin correspondent there. Have you considered a job in the London Met?
rofl

sparkythecat

8,097 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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The state of his upper lip is an outrage to public decency and he should be charged with having an offensive moustache in a public place.

TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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AngryS3Owner said:
That could get rather interesting, he shouldn't be charged for anything from how the article puts it. He should also get an apology from the chap making the complaint!
It turns out this guy is quite a popular publican and a little bird tells me there are going to be THREE demonstrations of support for him in Alnwick on the 23rd plus one outside the police station just before he reports there.
I wonder if Northumbria Police have been infiltrated by BNP Fifth Columnists who are manipulating things to give the BNP positive press? If so it's certainly working for them in the region. Perfect timing really as the BNP are contesting a by-election seat in Newcastle in January wink

Heskey

4,048 posts

222 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Is it just me or does he look like pizzaface in 30 years? My my how that tash has grown! hehe

Edited by Heskey on Sunday 21st December 12:15

stuthemong

2,532 posts

246 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
So what happens to the purveyors of this offensive materiial?
Sorry, my post was an immature ref to a topical thread in SP&L jester

TWSTEEL

Original Poster:

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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stuthemong said:
TWSTEEL said:
So what happens to the purveyors of this offensive materiial?
Sorry, my post was an immature ref to a topical thread in SP&L jester
Ahhh................but you might just be right.

Guilty until proven guilty.



ETA

Edited by TWSTEEL on Sunday 21st December 13:29

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Is his battery flat...?

That is the question...