It won't move!!!!!!
It won't move!!!!!!
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Dirty Boy

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14,864 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Got in this morning (as the sun was shining and it hadn't been started for a few weeks) started first time, luverly jubberly thumbup

Thing is, it wouldn't go anywhere. I went to pull away, and it stalled. I Never leave the handbrake on in the garage, so I assume it's something to do with the pads stuck to the discs?

Anyone else had this happen? Quick fixes? I didn't want to break anything, so tried one more time and gave up.

How annoying!

Hoolio

1,184 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Try reversing / pushing it back before going forwards,this woprked on my Sag when the pads welded themselves to the discs.

HTH

Hoolio

morebeanz

3,283 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Mine is often a bit sticky on the pads, but never more than a little so it breaks free very easily. I've certainly never stalled it!

Dirty Boy

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14,864 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I would try reversing, however, given there's only an inch between the car and the wine rack, I think i'll give it a miss.

Have spoken to my mechanic mate, he's going to have a look tonight.

Hoolio

1,184 posts

251 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Dirty Boy said:
I would try reversing, however, given there's only an inch between the car and the wine rack, I think i'll give it a miss.

Have spoken to my mechanic mate, he's going to have a look tonight.
Well, if the Cerb won't move you could always drink the wine rack biglaugh

Hope you manage to get it sorted.

Dirty Boy

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14,864 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Hoolio said:
Dirty Boy said:
I would try reversing, however, given there's only an inch between the car and the wine rack, I think i'll give it a miss.

Have spoken to my mechanic mate, he's going to have a look tonight.
Well, if the Cerb won't move you could always drink the wine rack biglaugh

Hope you manage to get it sorted.
Can't get to the wine rack until the car's out! laugh

Byker28i

92,202 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Put something soft in front of the wine rack and rock the car gently back and forth. It's the salt/rusty brakepads onto brake disks.

I'm getting it a lot at the moment.

GreenV8S

31,023 posts

314 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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If you let the clutch up in neutral, does it still carry on idling OK?

It seems strange that the brakes should rust themselves up so solidly that you can't drive away (I've never had worse than a momentary stiffness followed by a 'clunk' as they release). But I have had a selector fork fail leaving a gear select, so when any other gear is selected the gearbox locks up solid.

Edited by GreenV8S on Monday 22 December 12:34

FarmyardPants

4,379 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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I get this a lot too, but the V8 has always had the grunt to overcome it smile Mind you, I do tend to roll it into the garage after cleaning it so the discs go a bit orange, and always put the car in nose first. Backing into a garage is not good for the respiratory system!

Dirty Boy

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14,864 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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FarmyardPants said:
I get this a lot too, but the V8 has always had the grunt to overcome it smile Mind you, I do tend to roll it into the garage after cleaning it so the discs go a bit orange, and always put the car in nose first. Backing into a garage is not good for the respiratory system!
It's fine in neutral, so almost certainly pads welded to discs, can't believe how solid, as I expected the car to release them, but instead it stalled, I didn't want to be doing snake hips wheel spin out of the garage either!

I would drive straight in, but given the wife drives it, I don't quite fancy her reversing out of the garage and along the even narrower bit beside the house.

FarmyardPants

4,379 posts

248 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Dirty Boy said:
FarmyardPants said:
I get this a lot too, but the V8 has always had the grunt to overcome it smile Mind you, I do tend to roll it into the garage after cleaning it so the discs go a bit orange, and always put the car in nose first. Backing into a garage is not good for the respiratory system!
It's fine in neutral, so almost certainly pads welded to discs, can't believe how solid, as I expected the car to release them, but instead it stalled, I didn't want to be doing snake hips wheel spin out of the garage either!

I would drive straight in, but given the wife drives it, I don't quite fancy her reversing out of the garage and along the even narrower bit beside the house.
Fair enough. I'd be surprised if you spin the wheels tho. How about a tap of the pads with something subtle and precise, like a hammer? Also check that some joker hasn't chocked your wheels smile

Byker28i

92,202 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Brought my car to work this morning and my rear brakes were welded to the disks. Must be because I put the car away damp after washing it?

One nasty moment when trying to gently rock the car and free them. One side freed before the other and the back of the car skipped sideways - Gulp.

pjac67

2,040 posts

282 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Byker28i said:
Put something soft in front of the wine rack and rock the car gently back and forth. It's the salt/rusty brakepads onto brake disks.

I'm getting it a lot at the moment.
Careful - I quite like Chianti Starmist but your paintwork (Rolex?) looks fine for the mo'...

baztvr

109 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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This happens to mine when the car has been washed, when it manages to free there is a hell of a bang!. I don't like useing the clutch to brake the bond but pushing it is pointless. ps. its the only time it won't roll away. H/brake is poo!.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

278 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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You really should take the car out for a bit of a run after washing it, as you probably know the vented disks will collect water in the uppermost vents, if it is allowed to sit inside they will corrode internaly, you don't want your disks collapsing when the need to scrub off speed.

Dirty Boy

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14,864 posts

239 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Nickccc said:
You really should take the car out for a bit of a run after washing it, as you probably know the vented disks will collect water in the uppermost vents, if it is allowed to sit inside they will corrode internaly, you don't want your disks collapsing when the need to scrub off speed.
Thanks, i'm a bit late now, but this is all valuable information.

Gas Man

3,598 posts

224 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Nickccc said:
You really should take the car out for a bit of a run after washing it, as you probably know the vented disks will collect water in the uppermost vents, if it is allowed to sit inside they will corrode internaly, you don't want your disks collapsing when the need to scrub off speed.
ERR - don't vented disks have the vents all the way through so the water can run out??

I did use mine in the damp and left it till last Sunday and they do make a god awful noise as they break free!
Suspect a bit of road salt makes it even worse!

Steve

Nickccc

1,682 posts

278 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Yes they are vented all round, that won't allow the uppermost slots to drain as they will be in the 12 o'clock position, sitting full of water.

GreenV8S

31,023 posts

314 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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Nickccc said:
Yes they are vented all round, that won't allow the uppermost slots to drain as they will be in the 12 o'clock position, sitting full of water.
The vents are open at both ends so I don't see any way for them to hold water.

Nickccc

1,682 posts

278 months

Wednesday 24th December 2008
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On a Cerb? I'm not certain about that. Mine have recesses all round yes, but they are not open, I mean, if you poured water into them it would sit there. Anybody got a picture.
I'm not trying to start an argument, certainly not with you Peter as you clearly know your stuff.

Note, I have the drilled red rose disks, maybe others are different.


quick search,
Rusting

The discs are commonly made from cast iron and a certain amount of surface rust is normal. The disc contact area for the brake pads will be kept clean by regular use, but a vehicle that is stored for an extended period can develop significant rust in the contact area that may reduce braking efficacy for a time until the rusted layer is worn off again. Over time, vented brake rotors may develop severe rust corrosion inside the ventilation slots, compromising the strength of the structure and necessitating replacement.


Edited by Nickccc on Wednesday 24th December 16:53