Who are you calling a ghey-boi?
Who are you calling a ghey-boi?
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V8mate

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45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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This has to be another chime in the death knell of our legal system.

A chap is (succcessfully) claiming harassment on the grounds of his sexual orientation, having had to leave his job because his colleagues call him 'faggot' etc.

Seems fair enough?

Apart from he's straight.

And married.

About time someone introduced the 'Grow a Pair Act 2009' methinks rolleyes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3852496/Str...

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

278 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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stackmonkey said:
As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.
And how many people are offended when it suits them (especially financially)?

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Maybe its a case of someone being over sensitive to this situation. But, maybe, just maybe, this chap endured years of taunts and abuse at the hands of his workmates. Maybe it wasn't just the odd comment or something printed in the company magazine (a big no-no legally speaking by the way). Maybe he endured an unacceptable level of abuse at the hands of pure bullies....

Banter is one thing, and done right is funny.

Constant and unrelenting abuse is unacceptable. It shows poor leadership and management, unimaginative workers and an environment that is unproductive and, to put no finer point on it, illegal.

Maybe it was a few comments that most people could shrug off. But maybe it was years of abuse at the hands of bullies. Unfortunately the limited article simply doesn't say and passing judgement on something we have no understanding for shows insensitivity in the extreme. Now, since its now in the public domain, we can get further information - rather than some limited view point from a journalist trying to sell papers....

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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stackmonkey said:
As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.
blimey - would have had to have tinned the entire office today at our xmas lunch seeing as pretty much everyone took abuse one way or another


V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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stackmonkey said:
As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.
OK. I don't know you, but let's assume you are a caucasian male.

Your work mates decide to call you 'darkie' (insert other racist term), rather than your actual name.

Are you going to use the racial harassment laws to claim compensation for having to leave your job?

Frik

13,679 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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So if he was gay and someone called him a faggot he'd have grounds but because he wasn't he should just grow a pair?

Eh?

Geronimo

626 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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V8mate said:
A chap is (succcessfully) claiming harassment on the grounds of his sexual orientation, having had to leave his job because his colleagues call him 'faggot' etc.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3852496/Str...
What a bender.

stackmonkey

5,084 posts

278 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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V8mate said:
stackmonkey said:
As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.
OK. I don't know you, but let's assume you are a caucasian male.

Your work mates decide to call you 'darkie' (insert other racist term), rather than your actual name.

Are you going to use the racial harassment laws to claim compensation for having to leave your job?
If it's part of the general office banter, no.
If it's continual, unrelenting, engineered by several people, one-way remarks (as distinct from 2 way banter), aggressive and demeaning, and management does nothing about it when complained to, then yes I would.

Dimski

2,100 posts

228 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Someone who went to public school is deeply hurt by being called a faggot?

Must have been to a very different public school to me, taking the piss was par for the course. And that was usually the most common insult.

I hate the anti bullying campaigns. Not because it is not a serious issue, but it always brings the irritating, self obsessed 'celebrities' out...

"I was bullied at school, and I want to stop this happ...... etc"

No you were not.

Chances are you were teased, like everyone else was. Get over it.

Edited by Dimski on Monday 22 December 22:15

pbirkett

20,556 posts

301 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Dimski said:
Someone who went to public school is deeply hurt by being called a faggot?

Must have been to a very different public school to me, taking the piss was par for the course. And that was usually the most common insult.

I hate the anti bullying campaigns. Not because it is not a serious issue, but it always brings the irritating, self obsessed 'celebrities' out...

"I was bullied at school, and I want to stop this happ...... etc"

No you were not.

Chances are you were teased, like everyone else was. Get over it.

Edited by Dimski on Monday 22 December 22:15
yes

V8mate

Original Poster:

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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stackmonkey said:
V8mate said:
stackmonkey said:
As the EHRC said "Bullying is unacceptable."

No excuse for it; the background of the victim doesn't matter, it's still bullying.
OK. I don't know you, but let's assume you are a caucasian male.

Your work mates decide to call you 'darkie' (insert other racist term), rather than your actual name.

Are you going to use the racial harassment laws to claim compensation for having to leave your job?
If it's part of the general office banter, no.
If it's continual, unrelenting, engineered by several people, one-way remarks (as distinct from 2 way banter), aggressive and demeaning, and management does nothing about it when complained to, then yes I would.
I don't disagree. But there are more appropriate pieces of employment legislation, surely?

bkay88

727 posts

216 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Dimski said:
Chances are you were teased, like everyone else was. Get over it.

Edited by Dimski on Monday 22 December 22:15
+1

Monki

1,233 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Shows what a nation of wimps we are becoming, chap should have turned around and kicked the name-caller in the chops rather than running off to "teacher"

rolleyes

well that's how I resolved school-bullying hehe

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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I'd be interested to know if he reported it to HR/ managers. If he did and they failed to act, it's a failure on their part.

It's hard to know the circumstances unless you were there.

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Frik said:
So if he was gay and someone called him a faggot he'd have grounds but because he wasn't he should just grow a pair?

Eh?
Shut it ginge biggrin

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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Monki said:
Shows what a nation of wimps we are becoming, chap should have turned around and kicked the name-caller in the chops rather than running off to "teacher"

rolleyes

well that's how I resolved school-bullying hehe
If you're employed, have a look in your contract or employee's handbook to find the exact results of assaulting another employee wink

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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john_p said:
Monki said:
Shows what a nation of wimps we are becoming, chap should have turned around and kicked the name-caller in the chops rather than running off to "teacher"

rolleyes

well that's how I resolved school-bullying hehe
If you're employed, have a look in your contract or employee's handbook to find the exact results of assaulting another employee wink
We used to put brooms through apprentices overalls then fill their pants with barrier cream for a laugh. Nation of fking wimps these days yes

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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no hoisting them on the ramps?


HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2008
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sleep envy said:
no hoisting them on the ramps?
The odd one *might* have had a pair of slings under their armpits and *might* been hoisted up to the roof...