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Hi guys,
It's a decent handling little car. The previous owner had lowered it, which helps even more. I am thinking up putting in real good quality bushes all round (ive heard this has a considerable effect). Would this be a waste of time?
I am not going to waste money on power mods on a cheap car but the breaks are a bit poor.
What would you reccomend? Would it be possible to put cossie disks and calipers on? Doubt anyone has tried this though...
If I were to get bigger disks (maybe from fiesta st or something) would I be able to use the same calipers?
thanks muchly for replies.
stu.
It's a decent handling little car. The previous owner had lowered it, which helps even more. I am thinking up putting in real good quality bushes all round (ive heard this has a considerable effect). Would this be a waste of time?
I am not going to waste money on power mods on a cheap car but the breaks are a bit poor.
What would you reccomend? Would it be possible to put cossie disks and calipers on? Doubt anyone has tried this though...
If I were to get bigger disks (maybe from fiesta st or something) would I be able to use the same calipers?
thanks muchly for replies.
stu.
andy-xr said:
Polybushing seems to work well as long as you dont get the cheap ones, and an uprated servo/master cylinder is probably the easier way forward rather than going wheel side
thanks for reply. you saying just uprate the servo/master cylinder and no the pads+disk? sorry, bit confused.any idea what servo/master cylinder to go for anyone?
Edited by PumaPower on Saturday 27th December 21:26
Servos just means your foot/leg has got less work to do at the pedal. It wont make the actual brakes (note spelling) any more capable than they were previously. I.E. pressing the pedal harder has the same effect. It might just need a brake refurb, using new disks pads and fluid. This is highly likely as it wont be in the first flush of youth. The puma was rumoured to be hard on the brake disks so yours may be wearing a little thin by now.
If however you want Citroen like lack of effort brakes then the servo upgrade may be right up your street, though anything brake related that needs modifying to fit sounds like an insurance investigators Christmas party tale in the making.
If however you want Citroen like lack of effort brakes then the servo upgrade may be right up your street, though anything brake related that needs modifying to fit sounds like an insurance investigators Christmas party tale in the making.
fredd1e said:
Servos just means your foot/leg has got less work to do at the pedal. It wont make the actual brakes (note spelling) any more capable than they were previously. I.E. pressing the pedal harder has the same effect. It might just need a brake refurb, using new disks pads and fluid. This is highly likely as it wont be in the first flush of youth. The puma was rumoured to be hard on the brake disks so yours may be wearing a little thin by now.
If however you want Citroen like lack of effort brakes then the servo upgrade may be right up your street, though anything brake related that needs modifying to fit sounds like an insurance investigators Christmas party tale in the making.
Thanks. In that case I am not too fussed abou the servo I don't think. I like to have to press the actual breaks. If I refurb I would like to upgrade. I can already see that the pads and the disks are fine IMO (cant see any lips on the pad or any signs of warping).If however you want Citroen like lack of effort brakes then the servo upgrade may be right up your street, though anything brake related that needs modifying to fit sounds like an insurance investigators Christmas party tale in the making.
Theres no way I would go down modifying hubs etc that would need modifying to fit although IMO it should bring the insurance down if anything.
What makes of disk/pads/fluid would you reccomend without going into silly prices?
Either stick with oem type parts and perhaps update the pads (ferodo DS2500s or similar) or try asking on Puma forums e.g. http://www.pumapeople.com/forum/index.php for more specific model based advice.
Specialist like these chaps http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/category.php?catid=&... sell brakes and bits.
NOTE I've not had dealings with any of these.
PS if the fluid/calipers are crap through age then they'll still be crap after a disk/pad swap so get those areas checked /sorted.
Specialist like these chaps http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/category.php?catid=&... sell brakes and bits.
NOTE I've not had dealings with any of these.
PS if the fluid/calipers are crap through age then they'll still be crap after a disk/pad swap so get those areas checked /sorted.
fredd1e said:
Either stick with oem type parts and perhaps update the pads (ferodo DS2500s or similar) or try asking on Puma forums e.g. http://www.pumapeople.com/forum/index.php for more specific model based advice.
Specialist like these chaps http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/category.php?catid=&... sell brakes and bits.
NOTE I've not had dealings with any of these.
PS if the fluid/calipers are crap through age then they'll still be crap after a disk/pad swap so get those areas checked /sorted.
Thanks for help. Do the calipers deteriote significantly with age?! Might get fluids change. Im sure it wouldn't take a garage long. I doubt it's that difficult? never done it myself.Specialist like these chaps http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/category.php?catid=&... sell brakes and bits.
NOTE I've not had dealings with any of these.
PS if the fluid/calipers are crap through age then they'll still be crap after a disk/pad swap so get those areas checked /sorted.
You can fit 2wd cossie calipers and discs under the standard 15's (apart from the prop shaped wheels). However to do this you must remove the abs ring, so the car will not pass an MOT, but makes for very good track brakes.
The servo is more than powerful enough as standard the brakes are just progressive.
Poly-bushes and a good set of coilovers make the world of differance and pumaspeed sell a set of spacers for the rear hubs that help stabilize the rear end at high speeds
The servo is more than powerful enough as standard the brakes are just progressive.
Poly-bushes and a good set of coilovers make the world of differance and pumaspeed sell a set of spacers for the rear hubs that help stabilize the rear end at high speeds

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