The Man Who Killed 100 Boys

[Glassman]

Bit of an old story - one that I hadn't seen nor heard anything about until last night on The Biography Channel.

Did anyone else catch this / remember the story?

Sick bd he was eh... lot of controversy around the trial / sentence / his death.

Javed Iqbal

[King Herald]

Glassman said:

Bit of an old story - one that I hadn't seen nor heard anything about until last night on The Biography Channel.

Did anyone else catch this / remember the story?

Sick bd he was eh... lot of controversy around the trial / sentence / his death.

Javed Iqbal

I feel that he should have been lowered, slowly, into the acid before the strangling. That would have been a more fitting punishment.

[Simpo Two]

King Herald said:

I feel that he should have been lowered, slowly, into the acid before the strangling.

The problem with that is that the people doing the lowering lower more than the culprit, they lower themselves to the level of the culprit.

[Geronimo]

A literal observer of the "eye for an eye" school of thinking. I am loving that Judge's style.

"The judge ordered that the two be taken to the market square, where, in front of the families of their victims, they were to be strangled with the same chain used to kill Ijaz and the others. Their bodies would then be dismembered and the remains, dissolved in acid."

It's just a shame he committed suicide/was killed by guards before that punishment was meted out.

[King Herald]

Simpo Two said:

King Herald said:

I feel that he should have been lowered, slowly, into the acid before the strangling.

The problem with that is that the people doing the lowering lower more than the culprit, they lower themselves to the level of the culprit.

So you don't feel he should suffer as punishment for what he did?

You prefer he be rehabilitated so he can serve a useful role in society?

I see.

[Geronimo]

Simpo Two said:

King Herald said:

I feel that he should have been lowered, slowly, into the acid before the strangling.

The problem with that is that the people doing the lowering lower more than the culprit, they lower themselves to the level of the culprit.

Your line is a generic line trotted out all the time by people who are against capital punishment, however it doesn't stack up, it plain just does not work. Whatever measure you use to compare the two, they don't equate. Ending a sick twisted man like that, in whatever fashion, doesn't bring that person down to his level.

[Simpo Two]

King Herald said:

Simpo Two said:

King Herald said:

I feel that he should have been lowered, slowly, into the acid before the strangling.

The problem with that is that the people doing the lowering lower more than the culprit, they lower themselves to the level of the culprit.

So you don't feel he should suffer as punishment for what he did?

You prefer he be rehabilitated so he can serve a useful role in society?

I see.

There are many shades between black and white, but I see they do not suit your argument. For now, we shall assume you are wrongly arrested for murder, your appeal fails and you face the acid bath tomorrow at dawn. Welcome to your world, but I shall not be part of it.

And so, Geronimo and King Herald, will you do the lowering? Will you kill in cold blood? Would you cheer as you heard the screams? I suspect not.

Edited by Simpo Two on Tuesday 30th December 22:49

[glazbagun]

Pretty horrific reading. I havent finished it yet, but if you like that sort of justice, you'll love this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.aci...

I cant decide if it's Justice, Barbarism or Both (probably both), but if the court is trying to give the impression that they take a dim view of that sort of thing, they've done a pretty good job there.

[King Herald]

Simpo Two said:

There are many shades between black and white, but I see they do not suit your argument. For now, we shall assume you are wrongly arrested for murder, your appeal fails and you face the acid bath tomorrow at dawn. Welcome to your world, but I shall not be part of it.

And so, Geronimo and King Herald, will you do the lowering? Will you kill in cold blood? Would you cheer as you heard the screams? I suspect not.

Good point. Better we never punish anybody then, for fear we punish the wrong person. Be it the death penalty, a fine for speeding, or anything in between.

[Glassman]

In this case, the only thing that brought Javed's killing spree to an end was Javed himself. During a press interview, he very calmly stated that he'd reached his target, but if he decided the target should have been 500, it would not have been a problem. He still would have been...

[El Guapo]

Simpo Two said:

And so, Geronimo and King Herald, will you do the lowering? Will you kill in cold blood? Would you cheer as you heard the screams? I suspect not.

I don´t know about them, but I bloody well would. And I´d take a packed lunch.

[raftom]

glazbagun said:

Pretty horrific reading. I havent finished it yet, but if you like that sort of justice, you'll love this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.aci...

I cant decide if it's Justice, Barbarism or Both (probably both), but if the court is trying to give the impression that they take a dim view of that sort of thing, they've done a pretty good job there.

Fair do. Although I'm actually surprised that the judges didn't convict her to death by stoning and awarded the man a medal instead.

[KANEIT]

glazbagun said:

Pretty horrific reading. I havent finished it yet, but if you like that sort of justice, you'll love this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.aci...

I cant decide if it's Justice, Barbarism or Both (probably both), but if the court is trying to give the impression that they take a dim view of that sort of thing, they've done a pretty good job there.

I suppose the victim described it well, that if this punishment wasn't applied then the convicted would have eventually done worse to her or another girl. They have hopefully prevented an evil person from hurting anyone else whilst allowing him to live, albeit as a blind person.

[Parrot of Doom]

The sad thing about sentencing such a person to death is that nothing is learnt about why this person did what he did.

[glazbagun]

I thought that making him pay her damages after blinding him with acid was a nice touch, too. They thought that one through.

[BMWBen]

King Herald said:

Simpo Two said:

There are many shades between black and white, but I see they do not suit your argument. For now, we shall assume you are wrongly arrested for murder, your appeal fails and you face the acid bath tomorrow at dawn. Welcome to your world, but I shall not be part of it.

And so, Geronimo and King Herald, will you do the lowering? Will you kill in cold blood? Would you cheer as you heard the screams? I suspect not.

Good point. Better we never punish anybody then, for fear we punish the wrong person. Be it the death penalty, a fine for speeding, or anything in between.

That's not what he said. There is no recompense for a dead man. There is for one who has paid a £60 fine. Ergo, your assertion is bks.

[okgo]

Parrot of Doom said:

The sad thing about sentencing such a person to death is that nothing is learnt about why this person did what he did.

Who cares..

Everyone is unique, the sooner some of these people are not alive, the better.

[dickymint]

Should have shipped him out to Korea and gave him to the live fish and dog eaters!

[Scraggles]

interesting read about the families not reporting the kids missing as the police would give them a shakedown and end up charging them with something that required a bribe to be freed

places like pakistan obviously not really care about their street kids, same the world over probably..

[Parrot of Doom]

okgo said:

Parrot of Doom said:

The sad thing about sentencing such a person to death is that nothing is learnt about why this person did what he did.

Who cares..

Everyone is unique, the sooner some of these people are not alive, the better.

Why, so as a society we can learn nothing and go on to generate more people who do things like he did?