The deluded Obama supporters...
The deluded Obama supporters...
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tinman0

Original Poster:

18,231 posts

269 months

Wednesday 31st December 2008
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http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/31/obama.l...

Apparently, a poll done a few days ago suggests that Obama:

a) inspires confidence
b) can get things done
c) tough enough to be president

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".

ref said:
Seventy-six percent of Americans questioned in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Wednesday said Obama is a strong and decisive leader.
I know he's meant to be some sort of Messiah, but how can you rate someone as being a strong and decisive leader when they aren't the leader yet???? There are some feckwits out there. And worryingly, they have a vote.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st December 2008
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Los Angeles said:
By his election he has altered almost overnight the world's perception of America as a sick, divided, venal, and aggressive country. By the success of his campaign he has shown himelf a masterful organiser and orator, keeping staff from breaking ranks or faltering, never getting deflected off message by slur or slime. And by his choice of cabinet he shows himself well able to delegate tasks to experienced hands. So much for his detractors claim he is inexperienced.
I'm sure you could do that, LA...

Running the USA is a different matter...

Olf

11,978 posts

247 months

Wednesday 31st December 2008
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tinman0 said:

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".
I'm no fanboy but the suggestion that he hasn't actually done anything yet is laughable.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

251 months

Wednesday 31st December 2008
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Los Angeles said:
By his election he electing him, the American people have altered, almost overnight, the world's perception of America, as a sick, divided, venal, and aggressive country.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

251 months

Wednesday 31st December 2008
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Los Angeles said:
I accept that alteration, Jefferson (good moniker) although its the vision that folk vote for.
wink

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

216 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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I didn't vote for him and I freely admit it. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he put Hillary Clinton (That fking demonic bh) in as secretary of state.

tinman0

Original Poster:

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Olf said:
tinman0 said:

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".
I'm no fanboy but the suggestion that he hasn't actually done anything yet is laughable.
Remind me, what administrative office has Obama held?

Governor of anywhere? Mayor of anywhere? Ah yes, he was a senator. Senators don't run anything. Senators are part of the electoral process but don't have any responsibility in a public office.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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It seems the entire world runs only on the various faiths of its human population.

Faith seems well able to create some unsustainable expectations.

Olf

11,978 posts

247 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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tinman0 said:
Olf said:
tinman0 said:

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".
I'm no fanboy but the suggestion that he hasn't actually done anything yet is laughable.
Remind me, what administrative office has Obama held?

Governor of anywhere? Mayor of anywhere? Ah yes, he was a senator. Senators don't run anything. Senators are part of the electoral process but don't have any responsibility in a public office.
Why didn't you ask those questions before the brave 'he hasn't done anything' statement. In my book getting elected the first coloured president of the supposedly greatest nation on earth is one hell of an achievement. But in true Python style... apart from getting elected the first coloured president of the supposedly greatest nation on earth, what on earth has he done?

Captain Cadillac

2,974 posts

216 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
Captain Cadillac said:
I didn't vote for him and I freely admit it. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he put Hillary Clinton (That fking demonic bh) in as secretary of state.
In doing so he has kept his promise to unite and heal. But he has also been smart - he has isolated and almost certainly emasculated a one-time critic. Let her dare to say anything negative about him now - betrayal? That's putting it mildly.
Unite and heal my ass. Her and her slimeball husband are a tremendous part of why we're in the shape that we're in.

Half of his cabinet consists of former Clinton employees.

We're fked, as usual.

branflakes

2,039 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Captain Cadillac said:
I didn't vote for him and I freely admit it. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he put Hillary Clinton (That fking demonic bh) in as secretary of state.
Hillary Clinton as Secretary Of State or Sarah Palin as Vice President - which would you prefer?

Obama didn't win because he was the best choice for the job, he won because he wasn't the worst.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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I'll reserve my judgment and comments until the guy's in office and has at least a year to actualy do something

tinman0

Original Poster:

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Olf said:
tinman0 said:
Olf said:
tinman0 said:

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".
I'm no fanboy but the suggestion that he hasn't actually done anything yet is laughable.
Remind me, what administrative office has Obama held?

Governor of anywhere? Mayor of anywhere? Ah yes, he was a senator. Senators don't run anything. Senators are part of the electoral process but don't have any responsibility in a public office.
Why didn't you ask those questions before the brave 'he hasn't done anything' statement. In my book getting elected the first coloured president of the supposedly greatest nation on earth is one hell of an achievement. But in true Python style... apart from getting elected the first coloured president of the supposedly greatest nation on earth, what on earth has he done?
Pah, getting elected is nothing. Look at the halfwits we've been voting for in the UK in the last few years. We've happily let proper politicians get destroyed to keep spin doctors in power. You only need to look at Bilary to see why some people shouldn't be politicians - I mean someone spends £9m of their own money to become President - don't you find that a little worrying?

Getting elected is the easy bit. Being a good leader to a country is a different ball park.

Simpo Two

92,700 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
By the success of his campaign he has shown himelf a masterful organiser and orator, keeping staff from breaking ranks or faltering, never getting deflected off message by slur or slime.
Tony Blair 1997 I believe.

tinman0

Original Poster:

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
Simpo Two said:
Tony Blair 1997 I believe.
Wrong. Blair ditched Clause 4 - better known as socialism UK Labour style, and did so against fierce opposition from unions. Obama did not get elected on the basis of alienating any section of American society.
you might want to visit the south city boy wink

(you have to say that with a hill billy twang and a straw in your mouth).

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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tinman0 said:
Olf said:
tinman0 said:

He hasn't actually done anything yet, let alone hold an office, and some how people feel "can get things done" and has displayed enough talent to be "tough enough to be president".
I'm no fanboy but the suggestion that he hasn't actually done anything yet is laughable.
Remind me, what administrative office has Obama held?

Governor of anywhere? Mayor of anywhere? Ah yes, he was a senator. Senators don't run anything. Senators are part of the electoral process but don't have any responsibility in a public office.
Means nowt.

Geedub was governor of Texas for long enough; fat lot of good THAT executive experience did the USA.


Simpo Two

92,700 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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Los Angeles said:
Simpo Two said:
Tony Blair 1997 I believe.
Wrong. Blair ditched Clause 4 - better known as socialism UK Labour style, and did so against fierce opposition from unions. Obama did not get elected on the basis of alienating any section of American society.
Go out and ask anyone in the street if they know what 'Clause 4 means'. They won't. Blair knew that Old Labour was dead, and had the oratory ability to convince enough of the electorate that under him, things could only get better. And the suckers believed it.

I suggest that Obama was elected because Bush was unpopular and not as good at public speaking as his silver-tongued rival. I also have no doubt that many blacks and coloureds also voted for him on racial grounds.

Well, he seems nice enough, and now he's in. Time will tell if he can cut the mustard. I hope he can.

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 1st January 00:53

Funk

27,642 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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branflakes said:
Captain Cadillac said:
I didn't vote for him and I freely admit it. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until he put Hillary Clinton (That fking demonic bh) in as secretary of state.
Hillary Clinton as Secretary Of State or Sarah Palin as Vice President - which would you prefer?

Obama didn't win because he was the best choice for the job, he won because he wasn't the worst.
Every election ever has been won on this basis.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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AndrewW-G said:
I'll reserve my judgment and comments until the guy's in office and has at least a year to actualy do something
It's Pistonheads. Preconcieved notions matter

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st January 2009
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After George W *u*kw*t Bush, I'm sure anyone will be fantastic. It's all relative...

Edited by Ordinary Bloke on Thursday 1st January 20:40