Photos from my trial and error day
Discussion
After my advice thread and trying to take everyones advice bit by bit these are the images without any editing.
My fav pic of the day never realised how quick ducks really are!!
As i know, these pics arent perfect and they aren't meant to be, im just learning (well trying) but these are the pics im happy with especially the Duck photo. Also im happy with the last water shot effect wise, not really happy with the overall pic. c+c welcome and infact wanted so fire away!!
rest of photos here
Regards
Matt
My fav pic of the day never realised how quick ducks really are!!
As i know, these pics arent perfect and they aren't meant to be, im just learning (well trying) but these are the pics im happy with especially the Duck photo. Also im happy with the last water shot effect wise, not really happy with the overall pic. c+c welcome and infact wanted so fire away!!
rest of photos here
Regards
Matt
Aaaah, Dovedale. I ran 12 miles up and down there last year trying to keep up with my wife.
I'm no expert....
Generally I think your landscape shots could do with a wider lens go get a feeling of the vastness of it all, and more along the river to get a feeling of the essence of the valley (like the wide one with the people in).
The dull lighting makes everything very flat and is very unflattering for landscape photos. Big stacked clouds work really well, but if they're not there there's not much you can do about it.
I think there's a little blur in some of them and I presume they're hand held. Tripods make a massive difference, expecially when there's little natural light and the shutter speed creeps up.
I like the Duck shot, and yes they do move very fast. There's a great feeling of movement.
I'd recommend looking at this site: www.dpchallenge.com and even taking part in some of the challenges. It's amazing how much you can learn looking at photos and seeing the comments made by other photogs.
I'm no expert....
Generally I think your landscape shots could do with a wider lens go get a feeling of the vastness of it all, and more along the river to get a feeling of the essence of the valley (like the wide one with the people in).
The dull lighting makes everything very flat and is very unflattering for landscape photos. Big stacked clouds work really well, but if they're not there there's not much you can do about it.
I think there's a little blur in some of them and I presume they're hand held. Tripods make a massive difference, expecially when there's little natural light and the shutter speed creeps up.
I like the Duck shot, and yes they do move very fast. There's a great feeling of movement.
I'd recommend looking at this site: www.dpchallenge.com and even taking part in some of the challenges. It's amazing how much you can learn looking at photos and seeing the comments made by other photogs.
Edited by mikee boy on Saturday 3rd January 21:21
Flat light is never helpful for landscapes unless you are specifically shooting something that needs it. So you need to compensate for the lack of contrast and the flat colour and the camera exposing for any light areas and making the rest dark.
Many cameras, when shooting jpg, have internal settings you can adjust. Alternatively you are looking at some post processing activity.
The duck could use either a slightly faster shutter speed OR some practise and luck with panning technique.
I played with some of them briefly to see what might be available from them.
They need a little more time and effort but hopefully show what might be possible.
I'm not too happy with the skyline in 3 but didn't have enough time to really get stuck into it. Also it is a little problematic without more resolution at the starting point.
Many cameras, when shooting jpg, have internal settings you can adjust. Alternatively you are looking at some post processing activity.
The duck could use either a slightly faster shutter speed OR some practise and luck with panning technique.
I played with some of them briefly to see what might be available from them.
They need a little more time and effort but hopefully show what might be possible.
I'm not too happy with the skyline in 3 but didn't have enough time to really get stuck into it. Also it is a little problematic without more resolution at the starting point.
+1 for comments about light - light forms and creates the landscape image. For examples, check out that man Carter's shots at:
www.stevecarter.com
Scenically, your images are fine, BUT they suffer from leaden grey skies which give no shape to the landcape. Visit again when there is light and try a reshoot, it'll be worth it.
www.stevecarter.com
Scenically, your images are fine, BUT they suffer from leaden grey skies which give no shape to the landcape. Visit again when there is light and try a reshoot, it'll be worth it.
Hi Guys thanks for all of your help and advice,i have had a play with one of the photos longQ played with and this is what i have come up with, i have done it in paint.net as i really cant use photoshop, please let me know what you hink this is my first ever play with such a thing.
As also mentioned yes all pics were hand help bar the last one with the water which was balanced on an old log, i will be puchasing a tripod on my next pay day as currently very very skint. Also i will be visiting Dove Dale on a better weather day, for cast for this was really good but it stayed overcast all day.
Thanks agin.
Matt
As also mentioned yes all pics were hand help bar the last one with the water which was balanced on an old log, i will be puchasing a tripod on my next pay day as currently very very skint. Also i will be visiting Dove Dale on a better weather day, for cast for this was really good but it stayed overcast all day.
Thanks agin.
Matt
Hi Matt,
Better exposure of the darker areas for sure - nice. But the white area on the water has burned out and lost detail - always a concern when doing global adjustments.
I use LightZone from Light Crafts. Free 30 day trial on a fully functional program. It continues to work after that but adds grid lines to the result (quite reasonably really) to dissuade anything more than personal experimentation. The lines disappear if the program is licenced of if the edit is re-run on a licenced machine. (Lightzone is a non-destructive editor, as are many these days. It creates an edit file for changes and retains the original file, no matter whether RAW or JPG (two exemples) in its origianl form. You can always go back .... unless you delete the original.)
I find it quite intuitive (until needs become complicated and then lateral thinking rules) and it could be useful as a way to getting into thinking about processing - thinking about the images and how you want to enhance them. Most images will be enhanced in some way to give them better impact.
That said I would be very surprised if your camera came without some sort of photo managing and editing software. Normally they are good, though sometimes basic, entry routes to get a feel for what is possible and often have tutorials available through one route or another. (On disk or from the web.)
There are also some freeware photo file manipulators (as opposed to full graphics packages like Photoshop) which could be worth investigating so long as you accept that they are what they are. They may be excellent or might be limited in what they can do.
HTH.
Grant
Better exposure of the darker areas for sure - nice. But the white area on the water has burned out and lost detail - always a concern when doing global adjustments.
I use LightZone from Light Crafts. Free 30 day trial on a fully functional program. It continues to work after that but adds grid lines to the result (quite reasonably really) to dissuade anything more than personal experimentation. The lines disappear if the program is licenced of if the edit is re-run on a licenced machine. (Lightzone is a non-destructive editor, as are many these days. It creates an edit file for changes and retains the original file, no matter whether RAW or JPG (two exemples) in its origianl form. You can always go back .... unless you delete the original.)
I find it quite intuitive (until needs become complicated and then lateral thinking rules) and it could be useful as a way to getting into thinking about processing - thinking about the images and how you want to enhance them. Most images will be enhanced in some way to give them better impact.
That said I would be very surprised if your camera came without some sort of photo managing and editing software. Normally they are good, though sometimes basic, entry routes to get a feel for what is possible and often have tutorials available through one route or another. (On disk or from the web.)
There are also some freeware photo file manipulators (as opposed to full graphics packages like Photoshop) which could be worth investigating so long as you accept that they are what they are. They may be excellent or might be limited in what they can do.
HTH.
Grant
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