The antiques rogue show..
The antiques rogue show..
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Is anybody else watching this?

I find it hard to believe that somebody could make a fake piece of artwork like that and fetch 440,000 quid for it eek

pretty sad really. Is it a true story?

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Yes it is a true story!

I have rcordedit as it was recommended viewing!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Chrisgr31 said:
Yes it is a true story!

I have rcordedit as it was recommended viewing!
was pretty good. watched it whilst trying to find a thousand pound car lol

Jasandjules

72,580 posts

258 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I flicked over during adverts (assuming you mean last nights show) to see the Titanic memorabilia. How cool was that lot?

Chocmonster

962 posts

240 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I watched it but missed the section where they were found out (had to answer the phone) how were they sussed in the end? Did they just push it too far?

williamp

20,386 posts

302 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Chocmonster said:
I watched it but missed the section where they were found out (had to answer the phone) how were they sussed in the end? Did they just push it too far?
sent them straight to british museum, who showed them to Bonhams who then alerted the police. As usual they got greedy and this led to thier downfall But what a talent for art!

madala

5,063 posts

227 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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...they tried to sell some Syrian tablets to Brit Museum who became suspicious....antiques fraud squad sent round....found two other replicas of the one they sold for £440K....done deal....should have been happy with the £440K and enjoyed there ill gotten gains..... interesting programme.

guru_1071

2,768 posts

263 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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great program and really well acted - the old bloke was great.

i think it was great how he let the 'experts' draw themselves into the con, it was they who told him what it was worth and did all the running around.

whats the betting that women at the museum still has her job?


Puff Puff

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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madala said:
...they tried to sell some Syrian tablets to Brit Museum who became suspicious....antiques fraud squad sent round....found two other replicas of the one they sold for £440K....done deal....should have been happy with the £440K and enjoyed there ill gotten gains..... interesting programme.
They were forging for 17 years before being found out - astounding.

Steamer

14,175 posts

242 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Very interesting! and quite captivating too.

Selection of good acting talent there as well - always liked that chap when he was The Smoking Room.

Chocmonster

962 posts

240 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Thanks for the info! This programme really was good enough to be on primetime BBC1 rather than hidden away on BBC2.

whirligig

941 posts

224 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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It was interesting and as the documentary maker said - it was a shame that the guy's talent hadn't been spotted earlier and nurtured properly. He could have gone far I'm sure (legitimately!)

spitfire-ian

4,217 posts

257 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Jasandjules said:
I flicked over during adverts (assuming you mean last nights show) to see the Titanic memorabilia. How cool was that lot?
No not the Antiques Road Show, the Antiques ROUGUE Show. It was on BBC2 later in the evening.

eccles

14,368 posts

251 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I wondered what Grouty got up to in his old age......biggrin

stifler

37,069 posts

217 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Shirley the fake artist, sean greenhalgh?, has got a career when he gets out of prison. The infamy would be enough to get him in the art worlds public eye? The way they portrayed him in the tv program was like he is a savant.

Jasandjules

72,580 posts

258 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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spitfire-ian said:
Jasandjules said:
I flicked over during adverts (assuming you mean last nights show) to see the Titanic memorabilia. How cool was that lot?
No not the Antiques Road Show, the Antiques ROUGUE Show. It was on BBC2 later in the evening.
Oooooohhh... Missed that then !!

Puff Puff

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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stifler said:
Shirley the fake artist, sean greenhalgh?, has got a career when he gets out of prison. The infamy would be enough to get him in the art worlds public eye? The way they portrayed him in the tv program was like he is a savant.
He could get a job as a restorer I guess.

Savant? Undoubtably. His father was teacher of technical drawing so his 'eye' was most likely hereditary.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Puff Puff said:
stifler said:
Shirley the fake artist, sean greenhalgh?, has got a career when he gets out of prison. The infamy would be enough to get him in the art worlds public eye? The way they portrayed him in the tv program was like he is a savant.
He could get a job as a restorer I guess.

Savant? Undoubtably. His father was teacher of technical drawing so his 'eye' was most likely hereditary.
Surely he could go back to forgery.

I'm sure he has done extremely well out of it, £440k for one piece.

How many others has he done over the years? I'm sure he has made a pretty penny.


Puff Puff

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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elster said:
Puff Puff said:
stifler said:
Shirley the fake artist, sean greenhalgh?, has got a career when he gets out of prison. The infamy would be enough to get him in the art worlds public eye? The way they portrayed him in the tv program was like he is a savant.
He could get a job as a restorer I guess.

Savant? Undoubtably. His father was teacher of technical drawing so his 'eye' was most likely hereditary.
Surely he could go back to forgery.

I'm sure he has done extremely well out of it, £440k for one piece.

How many others has he done over the years? I'm sure he has made a pretty penny.
I think he's been well and truely outed as a forger.

He made between £2-10 million depending on which newspaper report you believe.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Puff Puff said:
elster said:
Puff Puff said:
stifler said:
Shirley the fake artist, sean greenhalgh?, has got a career when he gets out of prison. The infamy would be enough to get him in the art worlds public eye? The way they portrayed him in the tv program was like he is a savant.
He could get a job as a restorer I guess.

Savant? Undoubtably. His father was teacher of technical drawing so his 'eye' was most likely hereditary.
Surely he could go back to forgery.

I'm sure he has done extremely well out of it, £440k for one piece.

How many others has he done over the years? I'm sure he has made a pretty penny.
I think he's been well and truely outed as a forger.

He made between £2-10 million depending on which newspaper report you believe.
But surely that is like being outed as a damn good cat burglar. one day you get greedy and get caught. But if you're good you can keep on at it afterwards.

I would like to point out that I am not encouraging said behaviour.