How do you get a powerful shower?
How do you get a powerful shower?
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V8S

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8,582 posts

266 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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We have an electric shower - bolts on the wall, takes mains pressure water, heats it on the fly and pushes it out of the shower head. Thus it is weak and pathetic.

How do you get one of those push you to the floor showers? Do they work off the central heating boiler or a separate one?

I have no knowledge of plumbing or heating.

Thanks.

Heskey

4,048 posts

222 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Could do with hearing this good; got an electric shower and if I want it hot I gotta settle with a dribble. If I want power, I gotta freeze my nuts off.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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A big fat pump.

pies1981

8,993 posts

216 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I had a power shower fitted to my new bathroom about 18 months ago. So im lead to believe, its a seperate pump soley used for the shower. Its awesome!! My mom and dad have one powered by thier combi boiler which is good, but no where near as powerfull as mine!

satans worm

2,464 posts

246 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Need to change your boiler system to a pressurised one and you will get mains pressure hot water, and cost a fortune!


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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V8S said:
How do you get one of those push you to the floor showers?
Fire brigade...

BlueEyedBoy

1,954 posts

225 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Power shower fed from the mains.

This will use a pump, can be installed anywhere between your hot water tank and your shower. Sometimes they are part of the shower unit.
You can get them to increase pressure to all water, i.e. the bath as well, so fills up quicker.

Alternatively, build a tower on top of your house about 20 metres high and house your hot water cylinder in it.

LeoSayer

7,815 posts

273 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Hot water tank fed by boiler
Cold water storage tank
Gravity feed from cold water storage to shower
2.5 bar pump from hot water tank to shower

bigdods

7,175 posts

256 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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satans worm said:
Need to change your boiler system to a pressurised one and you will get mains pressure hot water, and cost a fortune!
Not necessairly - I have a big fk off combi boiler that provides mains pressure hot water all day long.

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Hmm, I'm no expert, even though according to the customers at my old work (Wickes) I should be because I can work a till at a DIY store, therefore I should know everything there is to know about everything DIY, but I digress.

You can have an electric pump connected up, I think the copper pipe goes into it for the hot water, the pump gives it stloads of pressure, then it exits the pump from another pipe and ends up coming out of your shower. That's very basic but in theory I think it is right, perhaps check at your local DIY store, where the 17 year old cashier who is perving at the teen girls who are forced to go DIY shopping with the family should know everything...


ETA: seriously though, if you ask at a DIY store someone there should know, usually management. Wickes are usually helpful, unless it's the one where my mate works and I used to work at.

Edited by dpbird90 on Monday 5th January 13:31

SimonV8ster

12,995 posts

257 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Either get a pump on your existing system (although I believe you have to be careful in which one you buy compared to your electric show unit) or power a shower head from a combi boiler set up.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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When I was rennovating my flat I had a new shower put in, with this being the main aim. The guys that did it put a dedicated pump onto the shower's hot water supply that switches on automatically when you turn the shower knob.

It's fantastic thumbup

My parents have electronic thermostatic showers at their place, and while they are nice and powerful, the thermostat gets messed up sometimes and blows very hot/ very cold every few seconds. Very annoying. Just get a normal mixer shower with a big eff off pump.

ln1234

848 posts

227 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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You can't pump water directly coming from the mains, which is one of the reasons you have separate tanks for hot and cold. The outlets from these tanks are pumped and fed into the shower, which can be as powerful as your storage & pump capacity allows. A system boiler is used to heat the water in the hot water tank, ready for use.

Another method is to use a combi boiler which provides a good flow rate, although this won't be as good as a pumped system mentioned above, and will rely on your mains pressures coming in to you property.

The third method is to use a mains pressured 'unvented' cylinder, which uses a separate hot and cold tank, but relies on your mains pressure instead of a pump.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Put the shower room downstairs and the hot water tank in the loft of a 4 story house. Loads of pressure then..... Or a pump if you dont want to re-arrange your living accomodation...

jollygreen

21,199 posts

231 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I've got a private well and a pressurised cold water system. I can get up to 6 bar and we've only got 3 showers in the house. At the moment, I've only got it set to about 3 bar which is a seriously powerful shower.


merc_man

1,926 posts

231 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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The shower in our bathroom is a Showerforce 1000XM and has to be the most powerful ordinary electric shower I've experienced. We've not got mains pressure hot water but the in built pump does a very good job.

Having said that when we re-model it we will go the way of a proper pump powered shower and/or new boiler.

Tyre_Tread

10,678 posts

245 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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ln1234 said:
You can't shouldn't pump water directly coming from the mains, which is one of the reasons you have separate tanks for hot and cold. The outlets from these tanks are pumped and fed into the shower, which can be as powerful as your storage & pump capacity allows. A system boiler is used to heat the water in the hot water tank, ready for use.

Another method is to use a combi boiler which provides a good flow rate, although this won't be as good as a pumped system mentioned above, and will rely on your mains pressures coming in to you property.

The third method is to use a mains pressured 'unvented' cylinder, which uses a separate hot and cold tank, but relies on your mains pressure instead of a pump.
Water companies don't like it hence illegal.

I bought a power shower which sat on the wall in the shower cubicle and plumbed to the existing supply from hot and cold water tank. Easy to fit. You can buy remote pumps and install in loft etc but more awkward.

ALawson

8,054 posts

280 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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If you have the cash a digital aqualiza, seperate pump in the loft I think which pumps hot water out of your hot water tank. You may need to check flow rates and capcity!

henrycrun

2,473 posts

269 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Normal combi boiler, no header tank, and a dustbin lid shower head positioned directly above my head, in a roll-top bath with shower curtain.

Its not as high pressure as a power shower, but frankly I don't want that. What I do get is big fat fast drops of water on my head, just like standing outside in heavy rain. Its wonderful.