Soffits & Barge Board Quote
Soffits & Barge Board Quote
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CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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I've just had a ballpark quote pre a written quote that will come later this week.

I enquired about new soffits and Barge Boards in light oak upvc, so it matches the house windows.

Apparently we will need 20 meters and they are proposing the following:

Strip off existing gutters
Treat the existing timber as it is too good to rip off
Apply the UPVC Soffits and Barge Boards - stiffened with ply so it isn't wavey
Install new guttering

Cost £1,200 or £60 a liner meter

What do people think

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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They're going to stick plastic over wood...?

Why...?

What happens when the wood rots later on...?

Cowboys, methinks...

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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This company are very reputable, but I had read a number of threads on here about the virtues of capping versus total removal.


groucho

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275 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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CatherineJ said:
I've just had a ballpark quote pre a written quote that will come later this week.

I enquired about new soffits and Barge Boards in light oak upvc, so it matches the house windows.

Apparently we will need 20 meters and they are proposing the following:

Strip off existing gutters
Treat the existing timber as it is too good to rip off
Apply the UPVC Soffits and Barge Boards - stiffened with ply so it isn't wavey
Install new guttering

Cost £1,200 or £60 a liner meter

What do people think
Do you mean fascia?

I don't know how much the oak stuff is but we did a similar last summer for abut £700. Normal fascia and soffit.

Edited by groucho on Tuesday 6th January 15:15

groucho

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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CatherineJ said:
This company are very reputable, but I had read a number of threads on here about the virtues of capping versus total removal.
The trouble with capping sometimes is that if you have a tight slate overhang in the first place it will be worse afterward. Capping is OK IMO though.

shirt

25,387 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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is this the only quote you have? are they going to break it down for you so you can seperate the cost of remedial work from fitting new fascia? i'd want to know that, and have 3-4 quotes to choose from.

if £1200 is what it costs then i would start to think seriously about doing it myself, perhaps bunging a mate some money to help. i did a ground floor roof myself and it wasn't hard, but perhaps freezing your nuts off up a ladder might not be worth the hassle.

groucho

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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shirt said:
is this the only quote you have? are they going to break it down for you so you can seperate the cost of remedial work from fitting new fascia? i'd want to know that, and have 3-4 quotes to choose from.

if £1200 is what it costs then i would start to think seriously about doing it myself, perhaps bunging a mate some money to help. i did a ground floor roof myself and it wasn't hard, but perhaps freezing your nuts off up a ladder might not be worth the hassle.
I would not advise a novice to do that work off a ladder.

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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groucho said:
shirt said:
is this the only quote you have? are they going to break it down for you so you can seperate the cost of remedial work from fitting new fascia? i'd want to know that, and have 3-4 quotes to choose from.

if £1200 is what it costs then i would start to think seriously about doing it myself, perhaps bunging a mate some money to help. i did a ground floor roof myself and it wasn't hard, but perhaps freezing your nuts off up a ladder might not be worth the hassle.
I would not advise a novice to do that work off a ladder.
Yep that isn't an option

Davi

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249 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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CatherineJ said:
I've just had a ballpark quote pre a written quote that will come later this week.

I enquired about new soffits and Barge Boards in light oak upvc, so it matches the house windows.

Apparently we will need 20 meters and they are proposing the following:

Strip off existing gutters
Treat the existing timber as it is too good to rip off
Apply the UPVC Soffits and Barge Boards - stiffened with ply so it isn't wavey
Install new guttering

Cost £1,200 or £60 a liner meter

What do people think
Blimey, only cost me £3.7k to have all the timbers put up on a 750sq ft cut roof extension ... quoted as being one of the most complex roofs they'd done!

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Yes I have to say I did think it was a little bit expensive.

I was thinking it would be about half that.

mechsympathy

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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CatherineJ said:
Yes I have to say I did think it was a little bit expensive.

I was thinking it would be about half that.
heheOur neighbours have just paid 1200 quid for the scaffold round their semieek

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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mechsympathy said:
CatherineJ said:
Yes I have to say I did think it was a little bit expensive.

I was thinking it would be about half that.
heheOur neighbours have just paid 1200 quid for the scaffold round their semieek
Ah I hadn't thought about that.

I heard him mumble a day's labour. I don't know if his costing was for us to have the front apex scalloped as per the current woodwork. He wasn't sure he could light oak done like that.

bigdods

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256 months

Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Sounds steep. We had all the wood removed and fascias, soffits , new gutters fitted. Quotes started at £2700 (for 48 linear metres or maybe a bit more), eventually had the work completed for £1300 all in. That included disposing off all the old wood and other crap.

£27 a linear meter and even then I thought it was a bit OTT.


Davi

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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CatherineJ said:
mechsympathy said:
CatherineJ said:
Yes I have to say I did think it was a little bit expensive.

I was thinking it would be about half that.
heheOur neighbours have just paid 1200 quid for the scaffold round their semieek
Ah I hadn't thought about that.

I heard him mumble a day's labour. I don't know if his costing was for us to have the front apex scalloped as per the current woodwork. He wasn't sure he could light oak done like that.
I'd put money on them using nothing more than a few of their own tower scaffolds.

Balmoral Green

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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That kind of money for 20m should get you full replacement of the soffits & Fascias, guttering & downpipes, Jumbotec interliner at the eaves between the felt and the bottom few rows of tiles (which will be removed if it's being done thoroughly) and bird guard too if you have curvy tiles, not simply cladding. Also, are they using conventional rainwater goods fixed into brackets screwed to the fascia as is still common, or is it the preferable continuous extruded aluminium gutter which is rolled through a die?

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Balmoral Green said:
That kind of money for 20m should get you full replacement of the soffits & Fascias, guttering & downpipes, Jumbotec interliner at the eaves between the felt and the bottom few rows of tiles (which will be removed if it's being done thoroughly) and bird guard too if you have curvy tiles, not simply cladding. Also, are they using conventional rainwater goods fixed into brackets screwed to the fascia as is still common, or is it the preferable continuous extruded aluminium gutter which is rolled through a die?
I won't know until the quote comes on Friday, they have to connect the guttering at the rear to an existing length.

Edited by CatherineJ on Tuesday 6th January 17:08

Marcusfenix

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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that's a high quote.30-35 quid is more like it
make sure there is sufficient over hang on the tiles or slates into the gutter,
as this will decrease with using a PVC cover board which they will be using......

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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You have to wonder why they are wanting that amount when they are telling you they only have 3 week lead time instead of the usual 8.

Perhaps they are increasing prices and doing less work.


darronwall

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
They're going to stick plastic over wood...?

Why...?

What happens when the wood rots later on...?

Cowboys, methinks...
nothing wrong with that,as long as wood is sound BUT WHAT THEY MUST DO is check all the roof felt is good and falls correctly into the gutter,or better still,install rigid felt supports under the existing felt
what do you think the existing fascia is fixed to?there is no way anyone should remove existing fascia and fix directly into the roof spar ends.Whats behind the pvc between the spars,fresh air.What happens whan the pvc expands?,it buckles all over the place,also would you be happy with guttering screwed solely into a 10mm pvc profile?

CatherineJ

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Tuesday 6th January 2009
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Darron am I right in thinking that full strip rather than a cap over should be plylined?