Griffith or Tamora
Griffith or Tamora
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CSM

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34 posts

217 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Are there any Griffith owners who look up to the Tamora as something they aspire to move on to, or are you happily biased with your current Griffith's? Why do you hold your particular view?

Griffophenia

1,107 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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CSM said:
Are there any Griffith owners who look up to the Tamora as something they aspire to move on to, or are you happily biased with your current Griffith's? Why do you hold your particular view?
Hi csm,
Most people who have Griffiths keep them, I personelly do not like the Tamora also you cannot beat the sound of that V8 engine, especially the 4.0 Precat which I have


Phil smilewhistle

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

246 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I would have thought it would be the Tamora owners aspiring to own a Griff,
I certainly won't be downgrading to a Tamora !! wink

Edited by Mr MoJo on Friday 9th January 14:26

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I had my first Griff when the Tamora came out and went for a number of test drives. My impression was that it was a better handling car than the Griff (the Griff is pretty good though), ultimate power was probably about the same, but the Griff had more torque low down.

The reason I didn't change was down to styling, exterior and interior though. The Griff is a timeless classic that will look as good in 100 years as it did when it came out if in original looking condition. The front of the Tamora is ok, but the rear IMHO is just awful. All in the eye of the beholder of course!

Then if you add in the various well documented S6 engine issues from that period and that the current value of top condition Griff's are holding up I'd always go for the Griff as a straight choice both from an aesthetic and financial perspective.

Slacey

1,113 posts

244 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Back before I bought my Griff I was dead set on a Tamora as I wanted a 'newer' convertible. However, a combination of initial cost, running costs and potential Speed6 issues I went for the Griff. I certainly haven't regretted it, and if I was to go for a newer model now it would be a Tuscan 2 convertible.
And I'd keep the Griff!

madbadger

11,752 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Englishman said:
I had my first Griff when the Tamora came out and went for a number of test drives. My impression was that it was a better handling car than the Griff (the Griff is pretty good though), ultimate power was probably about the same, but the Griff had more torque low down.

The reason I didn't change was down to styling, exterior and interior though. The Griff is a timeless classic that will look as good in 100 years as it did when it came out if in original looking condition. The front of the Tamora is ok, but the rear IMHO is just awful. All in the eye of the beholder of course!

Then if you add in the various well documented S6 engine issues from that period and that the current value of top condition Griff's are holding up I'd always go for the Griff as a straight choice both from an aesthetic and financial perspective.
Firstly, the Griff is a cracking car, but there are a couple of things with this post.

The tamora has about half as much power again. It's not really about the same.

Styling wise - fair enough. Each to thier own. I love both the exterior designs, but think the Tam nudges it on interior.

The 'well documented S6 issues' have equally well documented solutions, but these often seem to get overlooked.

As you were. wink Makes a change from abusing the Chim owners.

smile


Barreti

6,689 posts

267 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I really like the Tam. I like the look of it at any rate. Under the bonnet is a completely different matter though. Sorry getmecoat

steve-V8s

2,924 posts

278 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I took a Tamora for a test drive, superb brakes, nice tight handling possibly a little too direct steering but that is something you would probably get used to. The car I drove was a new demonstrator with 150 miles on it so can’t really say what the engine would feel like when freed up and could be revved but it certainly didn’t have the shove of the V8. It was interesting to note that being a new car the handbrake didn’t latch, the glove box catch didn’t the passenger door didn’t shut fully and the speedo was intermittant.

I drove the Griff home and decided fairly quickly to stay with the V8 and the Griff styling. A year or so later I wondered again and a dealer rather honestly said yes I will buy your Griff and sell you a Tam, be certain that is what you want however as you will never be able to sell it on again.

RichB

56,285 posts

314 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I tend to view the Tuscan II convertible as the spiritual successor to the Griff but no, I wouldn't swap wink

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

251 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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steve-V8s said:
A year or so later I wondered again and a dealer rather honestly said yes I will buy your Griff and sell you a Tam, be certain that is what you want however as you will never be able to sell it on again.
What utter bkss

When I bought mine I have had 3 ultimate V8 engined cars and wanted the same but did not fancy driving round in the equivalent of a MGBV8, I wanted a more modern incarnation and have to say the Tamora for me ticks all the boxes yep ok there have been problems with the S6 but as earlier said they can be solved and there not all made of cheese.
Drive and try both there are plenty for sale to choose from.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Barreti said:
I really like the Tam. I like the look of it at any rate. Under the bonnet is a completely different matter though. Sorry getmecoat
What Scooter said smile ANd from what I understad they are really sorted in the handling department..Must admit only thing that puts me of is the V8 rumble....

Bargain prices atm too

BB


RichB

56,285 posts

314 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Barry Ashcroft said:
What utter bkss - ... did not fancy driving round in the equivalent of a MGBV8...
What a brilliant put down! hehe

lockhart flawse

2,103 posts

265 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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In my view the Griffith is the definitive TVR and the one that will in due course appreciate the most along with the Sagaris. This was one of the reasons I bought one. By all accounts the Tamora is a very good car to drive but IN GENERAL they're not the TVR that people are going to want to buy and keep. I actually agree with the gist of what the dealer said.... I think Tuscans and Tamoras will become quite hard to shift because of the high running costs.

On the other hand everyone recognises the Griffith and there is a good market for them.

L.F.

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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madbadger said:
Englishman said:
I had my first Griff when the Tamora came out and went for a number of test drives. My impression was that it was a better handling car than the Griff (the Griff is pretty good though), ultimate power was probably about the same, but the Griff had more torque low down.

The reason I didn't change was down to styling, exterior and interior though. The Griff is a timeless classic that will look as good in 100 years as it did when it came out if in original looking condition. The front of the Tamora is ok, but the rear IMHO is just awful. All in the eye of the beholder of course!

Then if you add in the various well documented S6 engine issues from that period and that the current value of top condition Griff's are holding up I'd always go for the Griff as a straight choice both from an aesthetic and financial perspective.
Firstly, the Griff is a cracking car, but there are a couple of things with this post.

The tamora has about half as much power again. It's not really about the same.

Styling wise - fair enough. Each to thier own. I love both the exterior designs, but think the Tam nudges it on interior.

The 'well documented S6 issues' have equally well documented solutions, but these often seem to get overlooked.

As you were. wink Makes a change from abusing the Chim owners.

smile
Problem is we are dealing with 'TVR' BHP in both cases. To keep things objective on the performance front, I have a Performance Box and have used this to test both my Griff and Sagaris. Yes the Sag is quicker, but less than 0.5 sec to 60 and 2 secs to 100 on the same piece of track. But I haven't objectively tested a Tamora at the location with me driving, but I imagine it'd be somewhere in between. 50% more power? I don't think so.

RichB

56,285 posts

314 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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lockhart flawse said:
In my view the Griffith is the definitive TVR and the one that will in due course appreciate the most
Absolutly, think TVR's AC Cobra... take a look at some classic car mags from 20 years ago, Cobras weren't that expensive relative to other decent classics. Look now, £100k for an original. The same will be true of Griffiths in 2020... MGBV8 my arse wink

madbadger

11,752 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Englishman said:
madbadger said:
Englishman said:
I had my first Griff when the Tamora came out and went for a number of test drives. My impression was that it was a better handling car than the Griff (the Griff is pretty good though), ultimate power was probably about the same, but the Griff had more torque low down.

The reason I didn't change was down to styling, exterior and interior though. The Griff is a timeless classic that will look as good in 100 years as it did when it came out if in original looking condition. The front of the Tamora is ok, but the rear IMHO is just awful. All in the eye of the beholder of course!

Then if you add in the various well documented S6 engine issues from that period and that the current value of top condition Griff's are holding up I'd always go for the Griff as a straight choice both from an aesthetic and financial perspective.
Firstly, the Griff is a cracking car, but there are a couple of things with this post.

The tamora has about half as much power again. It's not really about the same.

Styling wise - fair enough. Each to thier own. I love both the exterior designs, but think the Tam nudges it on interior.

The 'well documented S6 issues' have equally well documented solutions, but these often seem to get overlooked.

As you were. wink Makes a change from abusing the Chim owners.

smile
Problem is we are dealing with 'TVR' BHP in both cases. To keep things objective on the performance front, I have a Performance Box and have used this to test both my Griff and Sagaris. Yes the Sag is quicker, but less than 0.5 sec to 60 and 2 secs to 100 on the same piece of track. But I haven't objectively tested a Tamora at the location with me driving, but I imagine it'd be somewhere in between. 50% more power? I don't think so.
I'm not convinced. I think the TVR horses went on a bit of a health kick in the speed six days. Quite happy to be wrong but I thought 240/250 real bhp off a proper dyno was pretty good for a griff. My Tam has reliably put out 370 so give or take 50% is about on the money. It's nearer that than 'about the same' anyway. Call it 40 to be on the safe side.


Loubaruch

1,445 posts

228 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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RichB said:
lockhart flawse said:
In my view the Griffith is the definitive TVR and the one that will in due course appreciate the most
Absolutly, think TVR's AC Cobra... take a look at some classic car mags from 20 years ago, Cobras weren't that expensive relative to other decent classics. Look now, £100k for an original. The same will be true of Griffiths in 2020... MGBV8 my arse wink
If there is any petrol to buy? frown

Del 203

12,728 posts

279 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Englishman said:
Problem is we are dealing with 'TVR' BHP in both cases. To keep things objective on the performance front, I have a Performance Box and have used this to test both my Griff and Sagaris. Yes the Sag is quicker, but less than 0.5 sec to 60 and 2 secs to 100 on the same piece of track. But I haven't objectively tested a Tamora at the location with me driving, but I imagine it'd be somewhere in between. 50% more power? I don't think so.
waveyyes & the old V8 does ok on drag strip wink

coetzeeh

2,890 posts

266 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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I have never aspired to own a Tam, a Cerb maybe, now that I have a little 'un.

If ever there was a hairdresser's TVR...

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Del 203 said:
Englishman said:
Problem is we are dealing with 'TVR' BHP in both cases. To keep things objective on the performance front, I have a Performance Box and have used this to test both my Griff and Sagaris. Yes the Sag is quicker, but less than 0.5 sec to 60 and 2 secs to 100 on the same piece of track. But I haven't objectively tested a Tamora at the location with me driving, but I imagine it'd be somewhere in between. 50% more power? I don't think so.
waveyyes & the old V8 does ok on drag strip wink
Especially yours (with twin turbo's) if I recall correctly!