DDA and dyslexia

[Brown and Boris]

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

[singlecoil]

Was it her that gave you these instructions? or did she send you some material that she had been given? Was the spelling correct?

And did she enclose a picture?

Edited by singlecoil on Friday 9th January 14:12

[maxrider]

I've got a mate that wants to be a fireman. He can't because he failed one of the tests to get in.

So he can't do the job because he isn't fully capable of doing it.

[singlecoil]

maxrider said:

I've got a mate that wants to be a fireman. He can't because he failed one of the tests to get in.

So he can't do the job because he isn't fully capable of doing it.

If he was actually disabled he'd be OK, I expect they would have to provide a chair lift rather than him use the pole.

[maxrider]

singlecoil said:

maxrider said:

I've got a mate that wants to be a fireman. He can't because he failed one of the tests to get in.

So he can't do the job because he isn't fully capable of doing it.

If he was actually disabled he'd be OK, I expect they would have to provide a chair lift rather than him use the pole.

[Steamer]

Whats the job title B&B?

You never know - she might excel in different areas! (I'm slexdistic but soon found ways round it!... like avoiding all the things I was crap at!)

Remember 'Dyslexics are teople poo'!

Edited by Steamer on Friday 9th January 14:26

[Geronimo]

Brown and Boris said:

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

You could do all that.

Or you could just put the application in a bin and send them your generic response letter thanking them for their interest bla bla bla.

[Brown and Boris]

singlecoil said:

Was it her that gave you these instructions? or did she send you some material that she had been given? Was the spelling correct?

And did she enclose a picture?

Edited by singlecoil on Friday 9th January 14:12

She attached a psychologists report done when she went to Uni teling them how they had to adapt their handouts etc. It is tough because one step wrong and you can be at an ET before you can say dislexa.

[superkartracer]

Brown and Boris said:

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

Who comes up with this complete bks?

[Brown and Boris]

Geronimo said:

Brown and Boris said:

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

You could do all that.

Or you could just put the application in a bin and send them your generic response letter thanking them for their interest bla bla bla.

That is my point in terms of doing her no favours.

As it is, she has filled the standard form in adequately, her spelling is OK. No pale blue paper used, no highlighted instructions, no lap tops etc. It seems that someone, on her behalf, is placing barriers in her way by making demands on employers which make it look like she wil be a whole load of hassell when she may well be fine.

Problem is that if she had failed at this application form stage because of her dyslexia and we hadn't jumped these hoops we would be at a ribunal sharpish, as happened to one of our clints last September in eactly these circs. That guy had applied last time they advertised and was his English assessed as OK, he then failed the final interview. He reapplied this year, failed on his spelling at the application stage (it is a job with a heavy external report wriiting element) and took them to ET. They argued that he had shown he could cope with the application last year and had just been tardy this year in not checking it properly. Didn't wash with the ET.

[Maxf]

Geronimo said:

Brown and Boris said:

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

You could do all that.

Or you could just put the application in a bin and send them your generic response letter thanking them for their interest bla bla bla.

In 13pt on blue paper? Or 5pt on white paper to dodge the issue

[Steamer]

Brown and Boris said:

singlecoil said:

Was it her that gave you these instructions? or did she send you some material that she had been given? Was the spelling correct?

And did she enclose a picture?

Edited by singlecoil on Friday 9th January 14:12

She attached a psychologists report done when she went to Uni teling them how they had to adapt their handouts etc. It is tough because one step wrong and you can be at an ET before you can say dislexa.

Forget what I said above - if she's leaning on it that heavily it sounds like she could be a toffee toothy toughie!

Edited by Steamer on Friday 9th January 14:36

[mechsympathy]

superkartracer said:

Brown and Boris said:

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Who comes up with this complete bks?

And more to the point when applying for a job who would send all this, rather than getting a friend to help them with the application. Unless of course they're angling for a payout/to be awkward.

[Exige46]

Brown and Boris said:

Geronimo said:

Brown and Boris said:

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

You could do all that.

Or you could just put the application in a bin and send them your generic response letter thanking them for their interest bla bla bla.

That is my point in terms of doing her no favours.

As it is, she has filled the standard form in adequately, her spelling is OK. No pale blue paper used, no highlighted instructions, no lap tops etc. It seems that someone, on her behalf, is placing barriers in her way by making demands on employers which make it look like she wil be a whole load of hassell when she may well be fine.

Problem is that if she had failed at this application form stage because of her dyslexia and we hadn't jumped these hoops we would be at a ribunal sharpish, as happened to one of our clints last September in eactly these circs. That guy had applied last time they advertised and was his English assessed as OK, he then failed the final interview. He reapplied this year, failed on his spelling at the application stage (it is a job with a heavy external report wriiting element) and took them to ET. They argued that he had shown he could cope with the application last year and had just been tardy this year in not checking it properly. Didn't wash with the ET.

Sorry - I couldn't work out whether it was yourself or the applicant who suffers from dyslexia.

[thinfourth2]

Just save yourself the time, effort and hassle

Send her a cheque for 10 grand

it will be quicker in the long run

[Sleekitman]

I have a friend who is a psychiatric nurse who's worklife was made hell when a newly qualified nurse who had dyslexia started on his ward. Apparently she was given all the extra help & time while at university to get through the course. Once on the ward,however,it quickly became evident that she couldn't work out or understand drug prescriptions. This meant she wasn't allowed to do "drug rounds" which put pressure on the other staff. It took a long time for employers and unions to agree that she was unfit for ther job. I still can't beleive the university let someone get a qualification in a vocation they couldn't possibly do. I'm not downing dyslexics here but even they have do realise there are some jobs they can't do.

[Dolf]

Geronimo said:

Brown and Boris said:

I have just had a job application sent in from someone with dyslexia and another syndrome. It seems that based on the psychologists report under the disability discrimination act I have to;

Print her application on pale blue paper, highlight the important parts of what she has to do in filling out the form, provide a lap top with a spell checker to complete it, give her 25% more time, print it all in at least a 13 point font, left justified, read over the instructions. I have to do this at each stage of assessment.

Once in the job I have to provide a digital recorder for her instead of note taking, provide a lap top and spell checker for her to do all paper work, allow 25% more time to complete admin tasks, highlight/read over/bullet point important instructions for tasks (and all the blue paper, 13 pont font stuff again).

Not doing her any favours I fear.

Edited by Brown and Boris on Friday 9th January 14:04

You could do all that.

Or you could just put the application in a bin and send them your generic response letter thanking them for their interest bla bla bla.

... on blue paper, font size 13, highlight the important parts ("no" and "job") - and send it by second class mail to accomodate for the 25% more-time-thingy.

Walk away with a warm feeling inside!

[Puff Puff]

thinfourth2 said:

Just save yourself the time, effort and hassle

Send her a cheque for 10 grand

it will be quicker in the long run

Or simply decide that another applicant fitted the job description and person spec. better.

[sleep envy]

thinfourth2 said:

Just save yourself the time, effort and hassle

Send her a cheque for 10 grand

it will be quicker in the long run

any chance you've a job for mrs envy?

she's severly dyslexic and had a spaial awareness test yesterday which she failed - we could do with £10k

[parapaul]

My OH is doing some admin stuff at the moment, and the leeway for dyslexics seems crazy.

I fully support giving everyone as much chance as possible, I can vaguely see the rationale behind the blue paper / large font idea. I can even go along with giving them extra time to allow for difficulty reading/writing.

But to have to supply them with a laptop for paperwork that is part of the job? Feck off If the job's computer based anyway, fair enough, but paperwork is sadly exactly that - paper work.