Child worship (is it a good thing?)
Child worship (is it a good thing?)
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singlecoil

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35,826 posts

275 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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It's right and proper that due consideration should be given to those members of society that are less able to care for and defend themselves, such as the elderly, people with mental and physical disabilities, and children.

Is there anyone else out there, apart from me, who feels that children are getting a lot more than their fair share of such consideration now? So much so that a child being involved in something is like a trump card to be played by the parents of the child, or others.

G'kar

3,728 posts

215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink

singlecoil

Original Poster:

35,826 posts

275 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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When people are actually going ahead with the birth of a child that has little chance for survival and will no quality of life if it does, most certainly.

Thread idea

G'kar

3,728 posts

215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
The wink?


pano amo

814 posts

265 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I think this country has and has always had more respect and care for animals than people, particularly children. Even on tv, there is endless adverts to save a cat, adopt a dog, sponsor a budgie etc etc.

On the radio debate on R4 over Christmas it was mentioned that there approx 30,000 children in this country considered high risk due to abuse. Thats a big number and thats just the ones who sadly are already being abused badly. So we still have a long way to go.

ShadownINja

79,994 posts

311 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
hehe Some stand up comedian was talking about that on Friday night TV.

Vron

2,545 posts

238 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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singlecoil said:
It's right and proper that due consideration should be given to those members of society that are less able to care for and defend themselves, such as the elderly, people with mental and physical disabilities, and children.

Is there anyone else out there, apart from me, who feels that children are getting a lot more than their fair share of such consideration now? So much so that a child being involved in something is like a trump card to be played by the parents of the child, or others.
I agree. I was in Starbucks yesterday and a couple and their 2 children had taken over the whole section of the settee area i.e one settee for mum and baby changing bags etc, one for dad with pushchair taking up spare section and one each for each toddler to jump up and down on. 4 x two seater settees in total!

singlecoil

Original Poster:

35,826 posts

275 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
The wink?
I can understand people winking, when I was young I enjoyed a good wink, used to do it quite a lot, but it doesn't convey any meaning.

G'kar

3,728 posts

215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
The wink?
I can understand people winking, when I was young I enjoyed a good wink, used to do it quite a lot, but it doesn't convey any meaning.
You were complaining about people using parenthood as some kind of trump card, so I....Oh, never mind.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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ShadownINja said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
hehe Some stand up comedian was talking about that on Friday night TV.
y'man Ed Byrne..... trouble was I wasn't laughing I was nodding and shouting at the TV agreeing with him. (O/T Andy Parsons was better than I thought he'd be,although his delivery is still pretty painful.)

It's not the kids' fault though is it? Its the parents.

singlecoil

Original Poster:

35,826 posts

275 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
The wink?
I can understand people winking, when I was young I enjoyed a good wink, used to do it quite a lot, but it doesn't convey any meaning.
You were complaining about people using parenthood as some kind of trump card, so I....Oh, never mind.
If you don't want me to know what your point is that's OK, I can live with that.

ShadownINja

79,994 posts

311 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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scotal said:
ShadownINja said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
hehe Some stand up comedian was talking about that on Friday night TV.
y'man Ed Byrne..... trouble was I wasn't laughing I was nodding and shouting at the TV agreeing with him. (O/T Andy Parsons was better than I thought he'd be,although his delivery is still pretty painful.)
(O/T I THINK...............THAT'S............ HIS STYLE!)

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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ShadownINja said:
(O/T I THINK...............THAT'S............ HIS STYLE!)
Well he should fking well change it, its painful. Shame really, some of his stuff is funny, but he just comes across as a bit amateur (and I would never have guessed he went to Cambridge, was in footlights etc)

GTIR

24,741 posts

295 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
The wink?
I can understand people winking, when I was young I enjoyed a good wink, used to do it quite a lot, but it doesn't convey any meaning.
You were complaining about people using parenthood as some kind of trump card, so I....Oh, never mind.
Trump biglaugh

Edited by GTIR on Monday 12th January 19:26

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Vron said:
singlecoil said:
It's right and proper that due consideration should be given to those members of society that are less able to care for and defend themselves, such as the elderly, people with mental and physical disabilities, and children.

Is there anyone else out there, apart from me, who feels that children are getting a lot more than their fair share of such consideration now? So much so that a child being involved in something is like a trump card to be played by the parents of the child, or others.
I agree. I was in Starbucks yesterday and a couple and their 2 children had taken over the whole section of the settee area i.e one settee for mum and baby changing bags etc, one for dad with pushchair taking up spare section and one each for each toddler to jump up and down on. 4 x two seater settees in total!
Were they a bit rude when you asked if they could move up?

ShadownINja

79,994 posts

311 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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scotal said:
ShadownINja said:
(O/T I THINK...............THAT'S............ HIS STYLE!)
Well he should fking well change it, its painful. Shame really, some of his stuff is funny, but he just comes across as a bit amateur (and I would never have guessed he went to Cambridge, was in footlights etc)
He has a website... go for it. Let us know how you get on. biggrin

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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ShadownINja said:
scotal said:
ShadownINja said:
(O/T I THINK...............THAT'S............ HIS STYLE!)
Well he should fking well change it, its painful. Shame really, some of his stuff is funny, but he just comes across as a bit amateur (and I would never have guessed he went to Cambridge, was in footlights etc)
He has a website... go for it. Let us know how you get on. biggrin
Err fanks, but I'll stick to sgging him off behind his back. His delivery maybe painful, but I am fairly sure he's better at witty putdowns than me.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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singlecoil said:
G'kar said:
You obviously don't have children, or you'd understand.

wink
Understand what?
Yep, clearly doesn't understand.

hehe

If you had children then you wouldn't suggest that. I mean, I would actually argue the other way around. British society is probably one of the LEAST child-friendly around, certainly in Europe. A British family who doubts this should go on holiday to say Portugal, Spain, France or Italy to see that the "Family" is the important thing there, and banning children from places serves no purpose at all.

Now, as a test, try having an 18 month old child and travel to a city for a day out - it all sounds pretty simple, but trust me, it isn't. First you have got to contend with public transport some how. Trains are useless and buses even worse, don't even think about park-and-ride. Then you have to contend with the other passengers who treat you like some lepper and tut and stare if your children even squeak. When you get there, try actually doing anything - shopping and you have people moaning at you all of the time, museums and getting through barriers and up stairs seems to be a challenge suitable for the Krypton Factor. Finally, try and find somewhere to eat that ISNT McDonalds or another similar fast-food place. Sick and tired of getting the "Kids not allowed" comments, or at best the "you will have to sit outside so that you don't disturb the other customers".

In other countries its completely different and shockingly so. Children and parents get too much consideration? Yeah right.....

Vron

2,545 posts

238 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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elster said:
Vron said:
singlecoil said:
It's right and proper that due consideration should be given to those members of society that are less able to care for and defend themselves, such as the elderly, people with mental and physical disabilities, and children.

Is there anyone else out there, apart from me, who feels that children are getting a lot more than their fair share of such consideration now? So much so that a child being involved in something is like a trump card to be played by the parents of the child, or others.
I agree. I was in Starbucks yesterday and a couple and their 2 children had taken over the whole section of the settee area i.e one settee for mum and baby changing bags etc, one for dad with pushchair taking up spare section and one each for each toddler to jump up and down on. 4 x two seater settees in total!
Were they a bit rude when you asked if they could move up?
I think that relates to the title of the thread can you imagine the response if I had said can you make do with just the 2 sofas or maybe 3? biggrin