Expanded foam... Where do I buy it??
Expanded foam... Where do I buy it??
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450Nick

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241 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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As part of my university project, I am designing and building an inlet manifold and plenum for the unversity racing car. I am looking to have the plenum made from carbon fibre in an autoclave, but I must first make the mould. To test the shape in situ, my plan was to first construct the plenum shape using expanded foam (the kind you can easily shape, sand and cut such as flower arrangers foam I imagine). I don't have a clue where I can buy any though as I'll need a couple of blocks at least 40x30cm I think. Has anyone ever worked with the stuff? Where might I be able to purchase some in the Birmingham area ideally?

chunkymonkey71

13,168 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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450Nick said:
As part of my university project, I am designing and building an inlet manifold and plenum for the unversity racing car. I am looking to have the plenum made from carbon fibre in an autoclave, but I must first make the mould. To test the shape in situ, my plan was to first construct the plenum shape using expanded foam (the kind you can easily shape, sand and cut such as flower arrangers foam I imagine). I don't have a clue where I can buy any though as I'll need a couple of blocks at least 40x30cm I think. Has anyone ever worked with the stuff? Where might I be able to purchase some in the Birmingham area ideally?
Flower arrangers foam is called Green oasis. You can buy it in florists or in florist supply shops. You can buy canisters of expanding foam in B+Q. Used it for a similar project to strengthen the crash cell on our formula student car about 10 years ago.

snotrag

15,624 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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The Universitys art department should have lots of stock of modelling foam. I used it lots for prototyping and shaping etc.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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No nails expanding (not expanded hehe ) foam is great for this sort of stuff.

prand

6,244 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Make you own? It comes in cans from B&Q for filling awKward spaces.Make sure you weare gloves when handling when wet because it never comes off....

Mr Trophy

6,811 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Put it in a speed camera and watch what happens smile

bramley

1,692 posts

237 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
No nails expanding (not expanded hehe ) foam is great for this sort of stuff.
I think you're confusing what the OP is asking for Tony. Expanding foam is no good for making a model or a mould, that job requires expanded foam in blocks that can be shaped as appropriate.

ultegra

525 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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prand said:
Make you own? It comes in cans from B&Q for filling awKward spaces.Make sure you weare gloves when handling when wet because it never comes off....
True.

Numpty mate of mine got this stuff on his hands and then had the bright idea of "rubbing it off with sand".

Big mistake.

Ever heard of Edward Sandpaper Hands?

Edited by ultegra on Tuesday 13th January 12:18

tegwin

1,682 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Flower aranging Oasis is stupidly expensive....

Go to your local building supplies centre and get some foam insulating sheets...

Used for insulating walls and foundations etc.... Comes in 4 or 6 inch... Usually pink..


HOWEVER... PU resin will melt it!

If you wanted to get a bit more creative you could partially make the shape out of carboard etc and pour in expanding 2 part foam available from cfsnet

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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http://www.twfoam.co.uk/packingfoam.php

I'm presuming its all the same stuff, and can be dissolved just as easily.

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

279 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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bramley said:
TonyHetherington said:
No nails expanding (not expanded hehe ) foam is great for this sort of stuff.
I think you're confusing what the OP is asking for Tony. Expanding foam is no good for making a model or a mould, that job requires expanded foam in blocks that can be shaped as appropriate.
Ah, I see why he used the "expanded" rather than expanding smile

However, we've used the no nails expanding stuff for making dashboards on kit cars and similar - put it roughly where you want it then you can sand/shape to fit, exactly like the flower Oasis type stuff, so it could be good stuff (and significantly cheaper?). Just a thought.

chunkymonkey71

13,168 posts

227 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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TonyHetherington said:
bramley said:
TonyHetherington said:
No nails expanding (not expanded hehe ) foam is great for this sort of stuff.
I think you're confusing what the OP is asking for Tony. Expanding foam is no good for making a model or a mould, that job requires expanded foam in blocks that can be shaped as appropriate.
Ah, I see why he used the "expanded" rather than expanding smile

However, we've used the no nails expanding stuff for making dashboards on kit cars and similar - put it roughly where you want it then you can sand/shape to fit, exactly like the flower Oasis type stuff, so it could be good stuff (and significantly cheaper?). Just a thought.
Thats what I was thinking too.

pimpin gimp

3,319 posts

229 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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yeah, just fill a box of approximately the right shape with expanding foam and leave the top of the box opne, once it's dried you have a box of expanded foam. perfect.

tom g

1,046 posts

224 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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pimpin gimp said:
yeah, just fill a box of approximately the right shape with expanding foam and leave the top of the box opne, once it's dried you have a box of expanded foam. perfect.
don;t think that would be much use for sculpting, it would be dense on the outside and hollow on the inside (well not hollow but much larger bubbles)

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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tom g said:
pimpin gimp said:
yeah, just fill a box of approximately the right shape with expanding foam and leave the top of the box opne, once it's dried you have a box of expanded foam. perfect.
don;t think that would be much use for sculpting, it would be dense on the outside and hollow on the inside (well not hollow but much larger bubbles)
Yup, you would need to find some kind of substance that you could use to fill the gaps with :P


VxDuncan

2,850 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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tegwin said:
Flower aranging Oasis is stupidly expensive....

Go to your local building supplies centre and get some foam insulating sheets...

Used for insulating walls and foundations etc.... Comes in 4 or 6 inch... Usually pink..


HOWEVER... PU resin will melt it!

If you wanted to get a bit more creative you could partially make the shape out of carboard etc and pour in expanding 2 part foam available from cfsnet
Pink stuff is what we used at unit for modeling - styrofoam is the trademark. No idea where to get it from, google it. IIRC we used to use sheets of it stuck together with thin double sided tape (the sellotape thin stuff) to make bigger blocks rather than solvent based adhesives (which eat into it) or water based (which don't stick it).