Taking kids out of school
Taking kids out of school
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blindswelledrat

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25,257 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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WHat is the consensus on kids missing school for hoidays and what not?

My eldest is 5 now so for the first time we are not supposed to take her out of school.
On the whole I agree completely and the reasons are obvious.

Things keep cropping up though, that we have to say no to because they are in school time, and I often wonder whether I am too rigid in this rule.

FOr example-we've been invited for a few days skiing which would involve her missing 3 days of school. If we don't go it is not something we will do in the holidays.

My thoughts are that she would benefit far more from the skiing trip than 3 days school at this age. She cant be learning anything that we could teach her ourselves if neccesary.#Yet I would feel guilty.
What do others think?

singlecoil

35,826 posts

275 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Let the nanny look after her while you are in Klosters, it's what we all do.

barney123

495 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Our eldest is in reception class, and the teacher said it was less of a problem if they missed a few days, but interestingly, she said to
claim she is sick when taking her out. Presumably to prevent their stats for truancy looking poor !

Piersman2

6,676 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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My take on it is that for something like a 3 day holiday... especially at such a young age, her experience and knowledge will be vastly improved with a trip away than by spending 3 days stuck in a classroom.

Jees, I used to bunk of school for days... never did me any harm :-)

So go for it.

Zen.

794 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Education isn't just about what happens in the school room, especially at that age. Quality family time is very important and somewhat underestimated.

My eldest is 15 now and I've taken her out of school for a few days every year, her grades haven't suffered and she's got to do things and learn things she wouldn't have sat behind a desk.


HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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With older kids, it's a bit unfair (on the rest of the class and the teachers) to expect teachers to get them back up to speed just because you can't be arsed to plan your holidays properly.

At age 5, I don't think this is a concern.

Cheeky Jim

1,276 posts

309 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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3 days is fine in my book, 2 weeks is not.

It also depends if it's 3 days every month, or 3 days once a term.

Sheets Tabuer

21,390 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I normally wouldn't have a problem unless they are in secondary school and studying for GCSEs but I have to wonder how much skiing a 5 year old will do.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Plottot is the same age.

We have faced such dilemmas for a day or two here and there.

School lost.

croyde

26,304 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Now they are a little older we cannot not reasonably take them out of school but shame of it is that I am busiest (Freelance) in the Summer school holidays and boy do you get shafted by the transport and travel companies during the school breaks.

The Villa that we used to rent every year in June is triple the price in the school hols and the neighbour there says that it is too hot and far too crowded in August.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I absolutely agree that education is more than school.

It seems that, in disagreeing however, more and more schools have now made it an 'offence' (IYKWIM) to remove children from school for the purpose of holidays.

Shifty Scott

108 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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My wife is a primary school teacher and is of the belief that even a couple weeks out of the school year is not going to have a any significant affect on a child's education, and they will probably benefit if they are going somewhere interesting or on an activity holiday. The real reason that schools don't like it is not that it affects the childs education, but it may make their absentee figures look bad against government targets. rolleyes

croyde

26,304 posts

259 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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V8mate said:
I absolutely agree that education is more than school.

It seems that, in disagreeing however, more and more schools have now made it an 'offence' (IYKWIM) to remove children from school for the purpose of holidays.
A friend of mine is fined £100 for each of his 3 kids that he takes out of school during term time to go on holiday. He says compared to the cost of going during the official school holiday it is worth it.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I normally wouldn't have a problem unless they are in secondary school and studying for GCSEs but I have to wonder how much skiing a 5 year old will do.
you haven't seen a group of 5 year old French kids hurtling down a run after their instructor in one long snake have you!

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Sheets Tabuer said:
I normally wouldn't have a problem unless they are in secondary school and studying for GCSEs but I have to wonder how much skiing a 5 year old will do.
Loads! If they can walk, they can ski. Only problem is that when they're really small, the weight and bulk of equipment and clothing is higher relative to their body mass, so it's a bit hard.

Dirty Boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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In my opinion, at that age, the life experience gained from visiting another country and engaging in an activity like skiing, far outweighs the loss of that time in school.

When in the final two years of GCSEs or A Levels it's a different proposition.

Personally, i'd go, but obviously not make a habit of it.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Our eldest just took 3 weeks out for filming a Kids programme with the BBC.

We were all for it as she was provided with a tutor but the school said no initially. The BBC then protested to them and proved that she would be catered for adequately and the school grudgingly caved in.

She came back from her trip with a great experience under her belt and gained a lot from it.

Schools are only interested in 'stats' nowadays to impress their governing bodies, not the development of the kids.


ETA: Tom, did you know it's illegal to take kids out of school, you pervert?

Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 14th January 09:14

Sheets Tabuer

21,390 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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fadeaway said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
I normally wouldn't have a problem unless they are in secondary school and studying for GCSEs but I have to wonder how much skiing a 5 year old will do.
you haven't seen a group of 5 year old French kids hurtling down a run after their instructor in one long snake have you!
Admittedly no, I've never been skiing. It's far too cold for me brrrr

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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croyde said:
V8mate said:
I absolutely agree that education is more than school.

It seems that, in disagreeing however, more and more schools have now made it an 'offence' (IYKWIM) to remove children from school for the purpose of holidays.
A friend of mine is fined £100 for each of his 3 kids that he takes out of school during term time to go on holiday. He says compared to the cost of going during the official school holiday it is worth it.
Fined!? In the UK?

Almost worth paying a private doctor to say they have some infectious disease .. highly contagious of course ..

Leccy

481 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Piersman2 said:
Jees, I used to bunk of school for days... never did me any harm :-)

So go for it.
I take it one of those days you took off, was a day they taught spelling? wink