Cheap racing helmets
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Racewraps

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32 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Hi,
For those of you that went to the Autosport show - there was a company there selling snell approved racing helmets for a very cheap price of around £150 but the guy had run out of business cards when I was talking to him and I've forgotten who they are. I can't find their name in the trade guide either. Does anyone know who I mean? I'm sure it was something like '2Vracing'
Cheers,
Andy

lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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thems the guys.
V2 Sport / Pro

a bit of a discussion about them here: http://www.blatchat.com/t.asp?Id=160263

dpbird90

5,535 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Hmm, I'll be watching this thread with interest. Am thinking of track daying this year so need a helmet. I wouldn't mind the Simpson Diamondback in white, which would have to have the obligatory blue tinted visor and white Alpinestars suit...

Adrian W

15,496 posts

257 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k
You get what you pay for! You probably paid more, so you got a better lid!

I know I have a tendency to bang on about this, but you should look into getting a HANS device if you got harnesses in the car you're racing. Even though you're probably never going to be going fast enough to give yourself a basilar skull fracture, if you do have a head-on off they'll save you from an awful lot of neck pain.

Racewraps

Original Poster:

32 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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That's the ones. I was sent this link also - they've been discussed before

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t...

http://www.v2sport.com/

I didn't try one on at the show but they looked ok to me. I might not have remembered this correctly but I thought the chap on the stand said that other helmet manufacturers use them for building their shells. There were cheap looking bits on the helmet like the screws and bits for the visor were plastic instead of metal but if they break spares can be brought.

Thanks guys.

Racewraps

Original Poster:

32 posts

233 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Forgot to mention the chap said they were working on a Hans device one also. Just for those interested.

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Cheap helmets are for cheap heads.

I'm not saying you should spend £1000's but certainly don't just get the cheapest one out there.

Personally I have an Arai GP5k with HANS Posts fitted. Once I start to look at racing I am going to get a HANS device anyway.

I know 2 people who's lives have been saved by this device and know of many more.

Edited by rude-boy on Wednesday 14th January 14:05

Adrian W

15,496 posts

257 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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MrKipling43 said:
Adrian W said:
They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k
You get what you pay for! You probably paid more, so you got a better lid!

I know I have a tendency to bang on about this, but you should look into getting a HANS device if you got harnesses in the car you're racing. Even though you're probably never going to be going fast enough to give yourself a basilar skull fracture, if you do have a head-on off they'll save you from an awful lot of neck pain.
I use one, but did think the 50 quid i paid at the show for the advantage upgrade was a complete rip off, and some companies are charging more.

andy97

4,784 posts

251 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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MrKipling43 said:
Adrian W said:
They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k
You get what you pay for! You probably paid more, so you got a better lid!

I know I have a tendency to bang on about this, but you should look into getting a HANS device if you got harnesses in the car you're racing. Even though you're probably never going to be going fast enough to give yourself a basilar skull fracture, if you do have a head-on off they'll save you from an awful lot of neck pain.
I think that a guy in a mini and another in an Alfa died in separate accidents 3-4 years and it was reckoned that they may have survived if wearing a HANS. Difficult to prove but I am not sure that a basal skull fracture needs much speed.

andy97

4,784 posts

251 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Getting a helmet that fits properly is more important than the name, as long as they meet the required standards. I recently tried to find a new helmet and tried on several of the more expensive makes. The one that was most comfortable was the cheaper Sparco one.

It sounds obvious but helmets are not manufactured for the same shaped head and different companies have different views as to what dimensions fwd & back vs side to side represent the "standard head"

Not sure that a helmet with a "posh" name that gives you a headache because it hurts your forehead after 20 mins, as my old one used to, is particularly safe.

Edited to say, that this means that helmets need to be tried on before buying, rather than mail order. I won't make that mistake again.

Edited by andy97 on Wednesday 14th January 14:38

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k
I looked at them at the show, and following some negative posts on the previous thread, I was pleasantly suprised to find them as they were, well made, light, good lining (unlike my Arai that falls apart every few months, & having it replaced), already stickered up with the "Blue" MSA scrutineers sticker...... Superb value for £139 inclucing VAT. I have numerous helmets, 'bike & car, open face, full face, etc etc and I will have no hesitation in buying one for my next race helmet!!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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The SNELL test is the same for every helmet regardless of the price so get the cheapest you want, sur ethe paddding might not be that great, the visor mechanism might not be that sturdy and it might lack a few vents but the fact is if its SNELL/BSI approved, its passed all the necessary tests for destruction etc the same as any Bell/Arai/Shoei/Simpson etc etc... i fail to see why people still use the "how much is your head worth?!" argument as some kind of scare-mongering tactic to force you into spending £500+ on some Arai job with aerodynamic chin spoilers and some flash looking tinted visor.


bruh_la

319 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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pablo said:
The SNELL test is the same for every helmet regardless of the price so get the cheapest you want, sur ethe paddding might not be that great, the visor mechanism might not be that sturdy and it might lack a few vents but the fact is if its SNELL/BSI approved, its passed all the necessary tests for destruction etc the same as any Bell/Arai/Shoei/Simpson etc etc... i fail to see why people still use the "how much is your head worth?!" argument as some kind of scare-mongering tactic to force you into spending £500+ on some Arai job with aerodynamic chin spoilers and some flash looking tinted visor.
Many of the better helmets exceed the snell requirements, also, a poor quality helmet may need to be heavier to have enough strength to pass the test and the weight is very instrumental in the amount of damage it does to your neck in a crash.




jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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andy97 said:
MrKipling43 said:
Adrian W said:
They looked great, but are much heavier then my Arai, made me a bit sceptical about the carbon/kevlar claim, i.e. how much c/k
You get what you pay for! You probably paid more, so you got a better lid!

I know I have a tendency to bang on about this, but you should look into getting a HANS device if you got harnesses in the car you're racing. Even though you're probably never going to be going fast enough to give yourself a basilar skull fracture, if you do have a head-on off they'll save you from an awful lot of neck pain.
I think that a guy in a mini and another in an Alfa died in separate accidents 3-4 years and it was reckoned that they may have survived if wearing a HANS. Difficult to prove but I am not sure that a basal skull fracture needs much speed.
It is unlikely that a HANS device would have changed the outcome of the MINI incident. I specifically asked about that, as HANS salesmen had been going around the paddock just beforehand. Still, it's worth getting one, as you never know when you might need it. I've had one for 3 years now.

I must say, I am mighty sceptical about this "cheap helmet" concept. You generally get what you pay for.

lewis1

311 posts

217 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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got a 50pound head? buy a 50pound helmet.
there are flaws in snell testing. and after half a day on the track you wil regret not buyin a helmet that is as comfy as an arai. the weight may not seem a factor for the first hour. but after a few sessions again you will realise that arai are expensive for a reason.
no im not sponsored by them (sadly!)

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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I was looking at the Impact brand at the show. They seem to have a big following in NASCAR, Indycar, as well as drag racing, and other US motorsports. Their prices are very keen too. Not down to the £140ish figures, but still very competitive.

Some of the price increases of the Arai stuff is due to the £ vs Euro vs Yen, and it's also hit (£ vs Euro) the prices of Stand21, AGV etc...

However, with the £ worth circa $1.50ish, Impact's race suits are very very good value compared to the likes of Stand21 or Sparco, in fact to the point where there damn 40% cheaper.



lord summerisle

8,174 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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lewis1 said:
you wil regret not buyin a helmet that is as comfy as an arai.
But its also important to get one that fits well. different manufractures measure heads differently, and have different head shapes. wink

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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lewis1 said:
got a 50pound head? buy a 50pound helmet.
there are flaws in snell testing. and after half a day on the track you wil regret not buyin a helmet that is as comfy as an arai. the weight may not seem a factor for the first hour. but after a few sessions again you will realise that arai are expensive for a reason.
no im not sponsored by them (sadly!)
Yes but did you see how badly the Ari motorcycle helmets came out in the SHARP test.... the £50 helmet got a significantly higher star rating !!!!

Guess whose got an ari motorcycle helmet !!!!!!


IIRC i dont remember paying anything for my head, it came free with the rest of my body.. so can i claim my free helmet ?


as for car helmets I've been looking at Stilo, as i want built in comms, nice and comfy but pricy !!!



Edited by Graham on Thursday 15th January 10:19

OJ

14,209 posts

257 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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I thought the GP5 Motorbike Helmet scored full marks

I've got a GP5, my 2nd one. The first one was between the back of my head and the rear right hand leg of a Caterham Cage went I went backwards into the Armco at Blanchimont at over 100mph. I wasn't even concussed. The other driver that went in with me had a cheaper Simpson lid on and was out of it for the rest of the day. He still can't remember the crash (which was convenient seeing as he tried to run me off the track!)