Shriti Vadera - "I am seeing a few green shoots"
Shriti Vadera - "I am seeing a few green shoots"
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Zod

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35,295 posts

287 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Mandelson: "Do these make green shoots? I suspect not." And pressed on whether Baroness Vadera will use such language again, "I doubt it".

This is the arrogant woman who engineered the end of Railtrack, “I was thinking we need a trigger to insolvency that we decisively pull” and who dismissed Railtrack shareholders as "grannies losing their blouses".

Still, none of this shower resigns unless backed into a corner, so we're stuck with her for another 16 months.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,998 posts

264 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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...made a change to talking the game down though..

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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When a supermarket announces 10,000 new jobs, that's pretty green.

Imagine the media storm if 10,000 jobs were cut somewhere.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I'm all for shooting a few Greens, if that helps.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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TheEnd said:
When a supermarket announces 10,000 new jobs, that's pretty green.

Imagine the media storm if 10,000 jobs were cut somewhere.
Well, Morrisons are looking to add 5000 jobs this year, Sainsburys around 4000 and Iceland 2500 - so there you are, more than 10,000, but lets be honest, it doesnt make good news.

Is it me, or are the news reporters and journalists a bunch of miserable gits who are getting more and more arrogant as the months plough on? They know they have a job, but they don't half seem arrogant while everyone around them loses theirs...

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
...made a change to talking the game down though..
yes From what I understand she will see the first signs of recovery before it filters down to the high street. I just hope she's right.

I seriously wanted to punch that tt Nick Robinson... Always talking things down. ::

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Zod said:
Mandelson: "Do these make green shoots? I suspect not." And pressed on whether Baroness Vadera will use such language again, "I doubt it".

This is the arrogant woman who engineered the end of Railtrack, “I was thinking we need a trigger to insolvency that we decisively pull” and who dismissed Railtrack shareholders as "grannies losing their blouses".

Still, none of this shower resigns unless backed into a corner, so we're stuck with her for another 16 months.
Although I have no time whatsoever for the lying scum of Labour, in this case there was nothing wrong with what the woman said. Strictly speaking, she was correct, and a welcome, although momentary, change from the endless collection of Chicken Littles who blight Britain.
As usual, the morons of the media are trying to make something out of nothing.

halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.

nonplussed

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258 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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halo34 said:
When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.
Why? It's not your money, presumably.

halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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nonplussed said:
halo34 said:
When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.
Why? It's not your money, presumably.
Nothing sensible/rational behind the comment, its just annoying me biggrin

Its media in general isn't it - one minute doom and gloom, next minute how someone "said" two words together and how in-sensitive that is - then we flick to how one individual potentially gets x amount of money, with no hint of irony.



Edited by halo34 on Wednesday 14th January 22:41

Mello

6,304 posts

263 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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nonplussed said:
halo34 said:
When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.
Why? It's not your money, presumably.
I tend to agree with Halo34. How can Spurs justify paying an extra £7M (or however much) for Jermain Defoe, when they only sold him the other way a year ago? He's not suddenly that much better, and I can't understand how his commodity worth has risen by so much when the rest of us are suffering a recession? Fair enough, if Man City wanted to shell out that much, they have the backing, but Spurs?

Something will have to give, methinks.

Apologies for talking sport-ish in the P&P. It won't happen again redcard

Simpo Two

92,694 posts

294 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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TheEnd said:
When a supermarket announces 10,000 new jobs, that's pretty green.

Imagine the media storm if 10,000 jobs were cut somewhere.
It depends on the nature of the jobs. If 10,000 skilled engineering jobs are replaced with 10,000 minimum wage shelf-stacking jobs it's a net loss I think.

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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TheEnd said:
Imagine the media storm if 10,000 jobs were cut somewhere.
Imagine the nuclear explosion if 10,000 media jobs were cut somewhere.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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There was a point last year when someone who was involved in TV or films died, and had coverage on all the news shows, despite being almost unknown. That's when i realised the news tends to be what's important in a journalists world.

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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TheEnd said:
There was a point last year when someone who was involved in TV or films died, and had coverage on all the news shows, despite being almost unknown. That's when i realised the news tends to be what's important in a journalists world.
yes

When you are the centre of the universe, everything about you is important.

off_again

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263 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Simpo Two said:
TheEnd said:
When a supermarket announces 10,000 new jobs, that's pretty green.

Imagine the media storm if 10,000 jobs were cut somewhere.
It depends on the nature of the jobs. If 10,000 skilled engineering jobs are replaced with 10,000 minimum wage shelf-stacking jobs it's a net loss I think.
Considering something like 30,000 people lost their jobs when Woolworths went pop, a lot of the newer jobs will be to soak up the business in retail. Woolies did nearly a billion quid in revenue per year. That type of business doesn't disappear overnight (and their sales weren't down, its just the massive debt they were under that brought them down). So its got to go somewhere and the big supermarkets and others will soak up the business and jobs.

So its a bit of a false economy to make any comparisons at all. 10,000 jobs lost in engineering are not going to get replaced quickly at all. 30,000 jobs lost in retail will see a fair percentage in other companies, but there is still a net negative loss.

Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

264 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
...made a change to talking the game down though..
Yep, sounded fine to me.

pp

Blib

48,021 posts

226 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Mello said:
nonplussed said:
halo34 said:
When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.
Why? It's not your money, presumably.
I tend to agree with Halo34. How can Spurs justify paying an extra £7M (or however much) for Jermain Defoe, when they only sold him the other way a year ago? He's not suddenly that much better, and I can't understand how his commodity worth has risen by so much when the rest of us are suffering a recession? Fair enough, if Man City wanted to shell out that much, they have the backing, but Spurs?

Something will have to give, methinks.

Apologies for talking sport-ish in the P&P. It won't happen again redcard
It's called 'desperation'. smile

s,one

4,612 posts

267 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Yea gets the thumbs up from me as well. Fed up of the doom mongers on here. I know it's wishfull thinking but the sooner people try and get positive the better. Like it or not we will get through all this crap.

Pickled Piper said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
...made a change to talking the game down though..
Yep, sounded fine to me.

pp

Police State

4,364 posts

249 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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nonplussed said:
halo34 said:
When are footballers going to experience the crunch - its annoying me now.
Why? It's not your money, presumably.
ask a father of two who wants to take his kids to see 'their team' on any given saturday... He'll tell you that he would, but he has to put food on his table first.