cold air intake
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/COLD-AIR-INTAK
can someone confirm if this is likely to fit my LS2 Monaro VXR
want to get it works out £160 delivered dont know anyone in the uk who does such an item?
does the filter look big enough to you?
can someone confirm if this is likely to fit my LS2 Monaro VXR
want to get it works out £160 delivered dont know anyone in the uk who does such an item?
does the filter look big enough to you?
racebreed1 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/COLD-AIR-INTAK
can someone confirm if this is likely to fit my LS2 Monaro VXR
want to get it works out £160 delivered dont know anyone in the uk who does such an item?
does the filter look big enough to you?
can someone confirm if this is likely to fit my LS2 Monaro VXR
want to get it works out £160 delivered dont know anyone in the uk who does such an item?
does the filter look big enough to you?
I had one of these on my R8, sold it on ebay couple of days ago, does not fit a Ro...............
not too sure alu is any less of a heat soak than plastic - would have thought it more of a heat soak as conducts heat very well.....
But i may be corrected.....
If i was looking - i'd be searching for an otrcai as you can have a BIG panel filter with air slamming into it and a short intake pipe, which will reduce temps if only by it's length.
But i may be corrected.....
If i was looking - i'd be searching for an otrcai as you can have a BIG panel filter with air slamming into it and a short intake pipe, which will reduce temps if only by it's length.
monkfish1 said:
racebreed1 said:
nitrosman1 said:
i got mine from monkfish im sure they can post to you
not on their webite is it enquiry only?
how much was it if you dont mind me asking
Mmmm, there is a flaw in the plan! I'll get that sorted.
cool email me how much and availability pleeeeese!!!
are they just filter or intakes?
If you are buying it for performance forget anything aluminium.
The best designed are straight shot over the radiator types, either with (bad) or without (good) the maf
Take a look at the Corvette intake, its a otrcai type, as is the whisper type for the camaro. So dont bother with any convoluted up, down, sideways setup.
Orrsom do a nice stock appearance one, which I think is what Mr Fish has on his site.
There are others that will perform slightly better, but dont give the OEM type appearance.
If you just want it for show, get a nice shinny metal one that curves like a snake all arond the engine bay soaking up all the under bonnet heat and transferring it to your intake air thus triggering intake temp overheat spark reduction, at least you wont have any wheel spin!
Time spent on LS1.com.au will show the best brands as well as pics of most makes available.
The best designed are straight shot over the radiator types, either with (bad) or without (good) the maf
Take a look at the Corvette intake, its a otrcai type, as is the whisper type for the camaro. So dont bother with any convoluted up, down, sideways setup.
Orrsom do a nice stock appearance one, which I think is what Mr Fish has on his site.
There are others that will perform slightly better, but dont give the OEM type appearance.
If you just want it for show, get a nice shinny metal one that curves like a snake all arond the engine bay soaking up all the under bonnet heat and transferring it to your intake air thus triggering intake temp overheat spark reduction, at least you wont have any wheel spin!
Time spent on LS1.com.au will show the best brands as well as pics of most makes available.
ringram said:
If you are buying it for performance forget anything aluminium.
The best designed are straight shot over the radiator types, either with (bad) or without (good) the maf
Take a look at the Corvette intake, its a otrcai type, as is the whisper type for the camaro. So dont bother with any convoluted up, down, sideways setup.
Orrsom do a nice stock appearance one, which I think is what Mr Fish has on his site.
There are others that will perform slightly better, but dont give the OEM type appearance.
If you just want it for show, get a nice shinny metal one that curves like a snake all arond the engine bay soaking up all the under bonnet heat and transferring it to your intake air thus triggering intake temp overheat spark reduction, at least you wont have any wheel spin!
Time spent on LS1.com.au will show the best brands as well as pics of most makes available.
The best designed are straight shot over the radiator types, either with (bad) or without (good) the maf
Take a look at the Corvette intake, its a otrcai type, as is the whisper type for the camaro. So dont bother with any convoluted up, down, sideways setup.
Orrsom do a nice stock appearance one, which I think is what Mr Fish has on his site.
There are others that will perform slightly better, but dont give the OEM type appearance.
If you just want it for show, get a nice shinny metal one that curves like a snake all arond the engine bay soaking up all the under bonnet heat and transferring it to your intake air thus triggering intake temp overheat spark reduction, at least you wont have any wheel spin!
Time spent on LS1.com.au will show the best brands as well as pics of most makes available.
scare mongering there abit mate to be honest, the route taken by the CAI in the wing is slightly conveluted and will get some heat soak butr black does of course absorb heat and lighter colours repel it!
It wouldnt be a post from me if there wasnt some emotive language in it somewhere, that being said its your funeral
Read the results and review from ls1.com.au
This is also worth a read for otrcai's as well as maf vs mafless etc http://www.chipmaster.com.au/ProjectVE_4.html
Comments from another forum, take it as a recommendation for metal intakes if you like Sir
"This is a good point. Metals have a higher thermal conductivity. This means the intake will absorb heat from the engine more quickly, and thus lose it more quickly (as somebody else points out).
It's important to realise that when it does cool down, that heat doesn't vanish - it's (largely) transferred to the air going into the intake (it won't be transferred to the engine bay, as that will almost always be the same temperature or hotter than the intake, and you can't transfer heat to a hotter environment (unless you have energy input - e.g.: a heat pump/air conditioner)).
Furthermore, thermoplastics have a higher specific heat capacity. What does this mean? If the same amount of heat energy was added two objects of identical mass (one metal, one plastic), the plastic one would have a lower temperature. This is probably only relevant for shorter trips however.
Think about it this way - we use plastics for things like saucepan handles because they insulate from heat so well, while we use metals for things like heater fins, because they transfer heat so well.
Plastic is the sensible choice - from a purely thermal point of view."
Read the results and review from ls1.com.au
This is also worth a read for otrcai's as well as maf vs mafless etc http://www.chipmaster.com.au/ProjectVE_4.html
Comments from another forum, take it as a recommendation for metal intakes if you like Sir
"This is a good point. Metals have a higher thermal conductivity. This means the intake will absorb heat from the engine more quickly, and thus lose it more quickly (as somebody else points out).
It's important to realise that when it does cool down, that heat doesn't vanish - it's (largely) transferred to the air going into the intake (it won't be transferred to the engine bay, as that will almost always be the same temperature or hotter than the intake, and you can't transfer heat to a hotter environment (unless you have energy input - e.g.: a heat pump/air conditioner)).
Furthermore, thermoplastics have a higher specific heat capacity. What does this mean? If the same amount of heat energy was added two objects of identical mass (one metal, one plastic), the plastic one would have a lower temperature. This is probably only relevant for shorter trips however.
Think about it this way - we use plastics for things like saucepan handles because they insulate from heat so well, while we use metals for things like heater fins, because they transfer heat so well.
Plastic is the sensible choice - from a purely thermal point of view."
Edited by ringram on Friday 16th January 10:46
ringram said:
It wouldnt be a post from me if there wasnt some emotive language in it somewhere, that being said its your funeral
Read the results and review from ls1.com.au
This is also worth a read for otrcai's as well as maf vs mafless etc www.chipmaster.com.au/ProjectVE_4.html
Comments from another forum, take it as a recommendation for metal intakes if you like Sir
"This is a good point. Metals have a higher thermal conductivity. This means the intake will absorb heat from the engine more quickly, and thus lose it more quickly (as somebody else points out).
It's important to realise that when it does cool down, that heat doesn't vanish - it's (largely) transferred to the air going into the intake (it won't be transferred to the engine bay, as that will almost always be the same temperature or hotter than the intake, and you can't transfer heat to a hotter environment (unless you have energy input - e.g.: a heat pump/air conditioner)).
Furthermore, thermoplastics have a higher specific heat capacity. What does this mean? If the same amount of heat energy was added two objects of identical mass (one metal, one plastic), the plastic one would have a lower temperature. This is probably only relevant for shorter trips however.
Think about it this way - we use plastics for things like saucepan handles because they insulate from heat so well, while we use metals for things like heater fins, because they transfer heat so well.
Plastic is the sensible choice - from a purely thermal point of view."
Read the results and review from ls1.com.au
This is also worth a read for otrcai's as well as maf vs mafless etc www.chipmaster.com.au/ProjectVE_4.html
Comments from another forum, take it as a recommendation for metal intakes if you like Sir
"This is a good point. Metals have a higher thermal conductivity. This means the intake will absorb heat from the engine more quickly, and thus lose it more quickly (as somebody else points out).
It's important to realise that when it does cool down, that heat doesn't vanish - it's (largely) transferred to the air going into the intake (it won't be transferred to the engine bay, as that will almost always be the same temperature or hotter than the intake, and you can't transfer heat to a hotter environment (unless you have energy input - e.g.: a heat pump/air conditioner)).
Furthermore, thermoplastics have a higher specific heat capacity. What does this mean? If the same amount of heat energy was added two objects of identical mass (one metal, one plastic), the plastic one would have a lower temperature. This is probably only relevant for shorter trips however.
Think about it this way - we use plastics for things like saucepan handles because they insulate from heat so well, while we use metals for things like heater fins, because they transfer heat so well.
Plastic is the sensible choice - from a purely thermal point of view."
Edited by ringram on Friday 16th January 10:46
dont disagree with what you are saying i was having abit of fun !
I have a thorough understanding of thermal dynamics and heat loss
I just like to;
1. Correct misunderstandings and misinformation
2. Create a debate to enhance my own knowledge and test idea's out
3. Seek the most optimal performance per pound, (ie) Efficiency, which is the opposite of what the government does. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/16/dig...
1. Correct misunderstandings and misinformation
2. Create a debate to enhance my own knowledge and test idea's out
3. Seek the most optimal performance per pound, (ie) Efficiency, which is the opposite of what the government does. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/16/dig...
ringram said:
I just like to;
1. Correct misunderstandings and misinformation
2. Create a debate to enhance my own knowledge and test idea's out
3. Seek the most optimal performance per pound, (ie) Efficiency, which is the opposite of what the government does. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/16/dig...
Just confirmation of what we all knew to be the case anyway. Why is the country bust?? Because it has been run by people who could not run a piss up in a brewary.1. Correct misunderstandings and misinformation
2. Create a debate to enhance my own knowledge and test idea's out
3. Seek the most optimal performance per pound, (ie) Efficiency, which is the opposite of what the government does. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/16/dig...
At least the obvious is being spoken in high places now.
With everyone losing their jobs from ineffient and non viable businesses its obscene that some lazy layabouts have a job for life paid for by taxing the unemployed private sector workers. Sure, not all are like that, but Ive personally met a hell of a lot that are.
Nottingham have laid over 100 staff off probably with zero Ill affect to residents, mainly from a reduction in rates and parking income etc.
With everyone losing their jobs from ineffient and non viable businesses its obscene that some lazy layabouts have a job for life paid for by taxing the unemployed private sector workers. Sure, not all are like that, but Ive personally met a hell of a lot that are.
Nottingham have laid over 100 staff off probably with zero Ill affect to residents, mainly from a reduction in rates and parking income etc.
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