What Oil for a 111R

[Beachbum]

Sorry to ask this question again, when I know it has been answered before many times, but need the answer quickly, as need to buy some prior to the BoLOCs run tomorrow.

The Owners manual says 5W/40, however I can not find any manufacturesrs that have this, other than Halfords own brand.

Any suggestions greatly received. I am also now starting a search of the site.

[fatwomble]

Link to Opie oils showing what is available.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx

If you don't manage to find anything I have some silcoline pro s

Edited by fatwomble on Saturday 17th January 17:14

[Beachbum]

Going by that site, Catrol Magnatec is not an option and yet I know thats what Sportomotive have put in it at the last service.

[fatwomble]

Let me know if you run out of options and I will bring some with me, let me know how much you are likely to need.

[Beachbum]

Given the weather forecast for tomorrow, I doubt we wll be ragging the engines that much and as the level is only 5mm off max, I will leave it until I have spoken to Sportomotive on Monday. Thanks for the offer though, greatly appreciated

[LivinLaVidaLotus]

Beachbum said:

Going by that site, Catrol Magnatec is not an option and yet I know thats what Sportomotive have put in it at the last service.

I think, "bag of spanners" was often used to describe Magnatec in an Elise. I tend to top mine up with Motul - but as it's tiping it down right now, I don't fancy a trip to the shed to look what grade.

[edit]Just found the receipt in my email: Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40

Edited by LivinLaVidaLotus on Saturday 17th January 18:29

[fatwomble]

Beachbum said:

Given the weather forecast for tomorrow, I doubt we wll be ragging the engines that much and as the level is only 5mm off max, I will leave it until I have spoken to Sportomotive on Monday. Thanks for the offer though, greatly appreciated

Ok

[kevin ritson]

If it's only road use then Magnatec is fine. Personally I tend to put Silkolene in - it's about £40 for 5 litres from Opie, so it won't break the bank and keeps the engine in good fettle.

[dgr]

Have a can of Mobil 1 Motorsport fully synthetic that I use to top mine up between services. very welcome to pop by before heading down to the Pavilion. I am in Stapehill, just off Canford Bottom Roundabout

[Beachbum]

dgr said:

Have a can of Mobil 1 Motorsport fully synthetic that I use to top mine up between services. very welcome to pop by before heading down to the Pavilion. I am in Stapehill, just off Canford Bottom Roundabout

You are very close to my location, nea the Angel Pub in Ferndown

This raises another question about oil, what can be mixed. I know different grades can be eg 5W/40, with 10W/60 etc, but can synthetic, semi-synthetic, normal oils be mixed too.
Just an idle question now, but interested in knowing

Edited by Beachbum on Saturday 17th January 21:29

[NathanE]

I use "Mobil Synt S 5W-40 Superior Performance Synthetic Engine Oil" or at least that is what my cars previous two services at B&C and Castle have used.

[dgr]

I have only worried about the oil being topped up, particularly with the 111R Toyota engine. Topped up with different oils over the years with no apparent harm. Keep the viscosity as close to spec as possible though.

[freerange7]

Mobil Motorsport is a 15w/50 oil, this will give your battery, starter and oil pump a lot more work to do on start up taking longer to reach the top end.

The K series and the Toyota engine use a 10w as standard and you can improve on this with a 5w or a 0w.
The standard hot grade is a /40, this should not be played with unless better protection is required for excessive heat from track days but this will be at the sacrifice of a few BHP and MPH.

Always remember to let your engine idle for a couple of minutes on return, this will let the engine oil take the heat away and stop it being burnt onto the hydraulic tappets restricting there travel making them tick and rattle.

I would use Mobil 1 0w40 now in a 5ltr can, The car accessory shop on Ringwood Road Ferndown next to Tesco may give you a little discount if you mention the Lotus Club and say Phil sent you. [not Halfrauds]

[bordseye]

Interesting that posters have to top up their oil. My engine hasnt used any oil in the 4k miles I've had the car. Do they vary that much or is it that the engine only uses oil on the second cam - because I dont constantly rev that high.

As for the oils, I doubt very much that there is much difference between the products coming from the big companies like Castrol, Mobil, Shell, BP. And since the engine isnt really very exotic / high output I cant see any small differences mattering. Maybe if you're extracting 400 bhp from a Honda it would be different but the 100bhp / litre of the 111R isnt anything special.

[Beachbum]

So can anyone answer Yes or No, to the Q, can Synth, semi-synth, organic olis be mixed ?

Edited by Beachbum on Monday 19th January 08:59

[Gooby]

Beachbum said:

So can anyone answer Yes or No, to the Q, can Synth, semi-synth, organic olis be mixed ?

Edited by Beachbum on Monday 19th January 08:59

Not ideally.

I use Mobil 1 15 / 50.
2 reasons.
1)It is slightly thicker and gets rid of the "tappity" noise a yota engine can make.
2) It is readily available from halfrauds.

[TIPPER]

Gooby said:

Beachbum said:

So can anyone answer Yes or No, to the Q, can Synth, semi-synth, organic olis be mixed ?

Edited by Beachbum on Monday 19th January 08:59

Not ideally.

I use Mobil 1 15 / 50.
2 reasons.
1)It is slightly thicker and gets rid of the "tappity" noise a yota engine can make.
2) It is readily available from halfrauds.

I wish my local Halfords sold the 15/50 stuff. They've only ever got 0/40 Mobil 1.

[S Works]

TIPPER said:

Gooby said:

Beachbum said:

So can anyone answer Yes or No, to the Q, can Synth, semi-synth, organic olis be mixed ?

Edited by Beachbum on Monday 19th January 08:59

Not ideally.

I use Mobil 1 15 / 50.
2 reasons.
1)It is slightly thicker and gets rid of the "tappity" noise a yota engine can make.
2) It is readily available from halfrauds.

I wish my local Halfords sold the 15/50 stuff. They've only ever got 0/40 Mobil 1.

Use OPIE - first class service, delivered to your door

[bordseye]

" Use OPIE - first class service, delivered to your door thumbup" and horrendously expensive. Main dealer service price levels.

[kevin ritson]

bordseye said:

" Use OPIE - first class service, delivered to your door thumbup" and horrendously expensive. Main dealer service price levels.

Eh? I can get 5 litres of Silkolene for around £35 and either carriage is free or a litre bottle is thrown in. 4 litres of Mobil 1 is over £40 in Halfords.