Embedding Youtube
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tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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It would be nice if we could embed youtube links into pages than having to open a new window.

I know you don't want to let people insert their own html into a page, but why not have a [youtube] tag?

eg [youtube]Q4Qx0TJ520E[/youtube]?

Q4Qx0TJ520E = the video code on their site. The html parser on the page generation just adds explodes it to the full embedded link which contains http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Qx0TJ520E

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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I disagree with this.

Surely people should want to decide if something is worth clicking, rather than forcing it on them. And especially with the nature of some of this content (as per P&P), then ...

1: I'd be sacked from work from viewing
2: PH would be deemed an unsafe site for people to view at work
3: Whoever posted it would be banned the moment I'd log on.

K

tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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you don't have t click on it. you only view the video if you opt to hit play. and you should able to set an option in peoples settings to provide either a link or the embedded video itself.

touching cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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I think it's a fine idea, I half understand your point Kinkster, but how is it any different from allowing people to embed pics rather than link to them? The videos don't play automatically, you have to start them and they are in fact sized to a default, one could argue it's safer than pics which might be mahoosive and fill your screen with a classy Paris Hiltons kebab shot. Of course people who embed unsafe video should indeed be banned/reprimanded, same as if someone currently posts up a suspect image.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Kinky said:
2: PH would be deemed an unsafe site for people to view at work
^^ yes

Please don't do this, or if you do then make sure you provide an option to turn it off. Personally I'd rather have the link to open it in a new window anyway, even if there weren't any work related issues.

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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My concern with all this stuff is that it's an instant dismissal at work - for viewing anything 'inappropriate'.

tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Kinky said:
My concern with all this stuff is that it's an instant dismissal at work - for viewing anything 'inappropriate'.
how is that different to a picture?

ali_kat

32,152 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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tinman0 said:
Kinky said:
My concern with all this stuff is that it's an instant dismissal at work - for viewing anything 'inappropriate'.
how is that different to a picture?
Same problem here.

It isn't in most places, hence the PH 'clean up' operation biggrin

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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This is on the list of ideas for consideration, but it does need careful consideration first for the reasons outlined above.

In essence there is nothing wrong with embedding videos (as long as they don't play automatically) as it makes it easier for people to both browse and see what a video is before they click (so no links to things which are not what they say they are!) but until the bar has been raised a bit in the P&P I think the risk posed by NSFW material outweighs the benefits


GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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It's not just the NSFW aspects that would cause trouble. My office won't allow access to any video streaming sites and also block a wide range of 'online community' sites. Pistonheads is currently tolerated because it doesn't raise enough flags to be deemed a problem, but it wouldn't take a great deal of change for it to move from 'tolerated' to 'blocked'.

Kinky

39,941 posts

298 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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GreenV8S said:
Pistonheads is currently tolerated because it doesn't raise enough flags to be deemed a problem, but it wouldn't take a great deal of change for it to move from 'tolerated' to 'blocked'.
Exactly - 100% spot on.

Yet - for reason, we continue to have these utter imbeceiles and morons who think it's OK to post the utter drivel that they do - not realising the 'actual' impact it has. It's not just a simple case of post inappropriate material on what is primarily an automotive website; nor the fact that young ones, and females also read PH; which are all direct and immediate issues to deal with. But it's the bigger picture that no-one seems to grasp.

My own rule of thumb is that if it's OK to look at, at work, with my boss, PA, and team sat around me - then it's fine.

I also hasten to add that I'd be sacked immediately if I was 'caught' viewing some of the posts/pics on PH. And I know for a fact I'm not the only one in this position.

K

tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Same old same old then. I think thats very sad in some respects.

ali_kat

32,152 posts

250 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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tinman0 said:
Same old same old then. I think thats very sad in some respects.
yes Same old few spoiling it for everyone else frown

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Kinky said:
I'd be sacked immediately if I was 'caught' viewing some of the posts/pics on PH. And I know for a fact I'm not the only one in this position.
You are certainly not alone.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Wouldn't it kill the servers to death on a busy night?

tinman0

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18,231 posts

269 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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crofty1984 said:
Wouldn't it kill the servers to death on a busy night?
cant see why. you don't get the video from the PH but from Youtube directly. the movie is just embedded in the page.

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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enbedding would be fine as long as you couldnt do it in the pie and piston, Ive never gotten on with ph tv really so it'd be good to see videos in linv without having to load up another webpage and all the associated adverts etc. Sherdog.net has it (huuuuge mma forum)and it doesnt seem to have stunted its growth, the videos are all related to mma so why not have motoring rvalated vids here?

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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deevlash said:
enbedding would be fine as long as you couldnt do it in the pie and piston, Ive never gotten on with ph tv really so it'd be good to see videos in linv without having to load up another webpage and all the associated adverts etc. Sherdog.net has it (huuuuge mma forum)and it doesnt seem to have stunted its growth, the videos are all related to mma so why not have motoring rvalated vids here?
We would like to add motoring videos to the site. It is the other stuff which might cause problems which we need to avoid.

On the subject of PH.TV, it is due for an update so keep an eye out for a new and improved version in the near future.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Wednesday 21st January 2009
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tinman0 said:
crofty1984 said:
Wouldn't it kill the servers to death on a busy night?
cant see why. you don't get the video from the PH but from Youtube directly. the movie is just embedded in the page.
Correct, it shouldn't have any performance impact.