Is it cheating?
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Cotty

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41,925 posts

308 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Packet sauces like Colmans casserole type stuff




I mean I am not rearing my own food or going out and hunting it, where do you draw the line . I still have to chop the meat, veg etc to go into the pot, it not like ordering a take away, there is some effort






jkennyd

3,142 posts

223 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Many top chefs use stock cubes when needed.......Its cool

missdiane

13,993 posts

273 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Well it is cheating a bit, but certainly not as bad as the 'chicken tonight' sauces

Having said that, the last 'chicken tonight' I ate was not all too bad.

grumbledoak

32,385 posts

257 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Technically cheating, but so what. I'd probably check the salt content, mind, and not add any more.

Looks great. thumbup

MitchT

17,089 posts

233 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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I can whip-up a fabulous Bolognese in half-an-hour using half a bottle of Dolmio. If I make the sauce from scratch it takes two hours. Those of us who experience the injustice of having to go to work simply can't afford not to cheat!!!

Mobile Chicane

21,825 posts

236 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Not 'cheating' as such, but largely unnecessary with a bit of advance planning. I make huge batches of basic sauces and stocks from scratch and freeze them.

Big Al.

69,332 posts

282 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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No not cheating, it's a short cut. However I have never found packet sauces so be to my liking. smile


Don't really enjoy sauces out of a bottle much cop either.

Chim Girl

6,268 posts

283 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Much like Big Al, I don't particularly enjoy the Dolmio, Chicken Tonight, Colemans, El Paso type sauces. However I appreciate that they can make the difference between people cooking something or ordering a takeaway, so they have their place. My main concern is that they're the equivalent of sprinkling the contents of a science lab over your meat and veg. My general rule when considering the ingredients of a dish; if it isn't easy to spell or pronounce, then it probably isn't that great to digest. (yes, over simplistic but still a reasonable heuristic)

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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MitchT said:
I can whip-up a fabulous Bolognese in half-an-hour using half a bottle of Dolmio. If I make the sauce from scratch it takes two hours.
Blimey.

I do my from-scratch bolognese in about 30 minutes end to end. And it's reet tasty, too.

missdiane

13,993 posts

273 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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Most things are easy
basic stuff is stock cube, tomato puree and or chopped, onions, seasoning

Optional extras garlic, mushrooms, sugar/honey, vinegar, wine

Most of it in cupboard and takes minutes to do

But I know what it's like to get home and want to spend 10 minutes preparing dinner instead of 20 frown

BigLepton

5,042 posts

225 months

Sunday 18th January 2009
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CommanderJameson said:
MitchT said:
I can whip-up a fabulous Bolognese in half-an-hour using half a bottle of Dolmio. If I make the sauce from scratch it takes two hours.
Blimey.

I do my from-scratch bolognese in about 30 minutes end to end. And it's reet tasty, too.
My girlfriend is Italian. If I even contemplated buying some Dolmio I would then need to use the empty jar to store my b@llox in. . . . . . . weeping

turbo-ww

1,766 posts

240 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Cotty said:
Packet sauces like Colmans casserole type stuff




I mean I am not rearing my own food or going out and hunting it, where do you draw the line . I still have to chop the meat, veg etc to go into the pot, it not like ordering a take away, there is some effort


All these consist of is seasonings. And salt.

The quick, and healthy version, is chopped onion, optional garlick, cook slowly for a few mins - Add herbs - Fresh is good - and passata or creamed tomato.

I you're adding meat do it with the onions on a slightly higher heat





bazking69

8,620 posts

214 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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MitchT said:
I can whip-up a fabulous Bolognese in half-an-hour using half a bottle of Dolmio. If I make the sauce from scratch it takes two hours. Those of us who experience the injustice of having to go to work simply can't afford not to cheat!!!
You don't need the tomato overkill of a jar of Dolmio or the hassle of making a passata/tomato sauce from scratch when a couple of tins of good chopped tomatoes and a few herbs do the job perfectly and quickly IMO.

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

283 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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"Are they cheating?"

Well it's dinner after work, not an exam, so IMO it doesn't matter. But on the basis that you're cooking regularly, I'd say they were expensive and unnecessary.

All there is in those packets is herbs, seasoning and thickening. For the packets you illustrate, you'd get a better result from a bit of flour (if necessary), a stock cube and a spoonful of mixed herbs.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Rude Girl said:
"Are they cheating?"

Well it's dinner after work, not an exam, so IMO it doesn't matter. But on the basis that you're cooking regularly, I'd say they were expensive and unnecessary.

All there is in those packets is herbs, seasoning and thickening. For the packets you illustrate, you'd get a better result from a bit of flour (if necessary), a stock cube and a spoonful of mixed herbs.
Yep, same principal but not quite as bad as 'pancake mix - just add milk and eggs'

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

283 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Plotloss said:
Rude Girl said:
"Are they cheating?"

Well it's dinner after work, not an exam, so IMO it doesn't matter. But on the basis that you're cooking regularly, I'd say they were expensive and unnecessary.

All there is in those packets is herbs, seasoning and thickening. For the packets you illustrate, you'd get a better result from a bit of flour (if necessary), a stock cube and a spoonful of mixed herbs.
Yep, same principal but not quite as bad as 'pancake mix - just add milk and eggs'
Have you noticed they do separate pancake mix and Yorkshire Pudding mix?

We ventured into Tesco last week for the first time in ages. They had 'crumble mix' on the shelves!!! Presumably for those who can't combine three ingredients. No mention of butter on the packet either - bet it's delicious wink

miniman

29,365 posts

286 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Rude Girl said:
We ventured into Tesco last week for the first time in ages. They had 'crumble mix' on the shelves!!! Presumably for those who can't combine three ingredients. No mention of butter on the packet either - bet it's delicious wink
I dispair sometimes, I really do. The laziness of some people is just epic. I cannot fathom, for example, why someone would buy ready-grated cheese. I mean, all you have to do is buy some cheese, get the food processor out of the cupboard, find the grating disc thing, clean it, put it all together, plug it in, bung the cheese through the spout, empty it out into a bowl, wash up the machine and put it away. My wife uses this odd stainless steel rectangular device with various teeth cut into the sides. However I won't touch it as frankly the effort of pushing the cheese up and down the side of it makes me sweaty and tired.

hehe

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

283 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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miniman said:
My wife uses this odd stainless steel rectangular device with various teeth cut into the sides. However I won't touch it as frankly the effort of pushing the cheese up and down the side of it makes me sweaty and tired.

hehe
Get yourself some microplane graters. They are so fabby that you won't be able to stop yourself grating everything in the fridge!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

294 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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The prosecution present 'Frozen Mashed Potato'

shoot

lingus75

1,704 posts

246 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Plotloss said:
The prosecution present 'Frozen Mashed Potato'

shoot
Which I saw Delia Smith using on a programme a while ago, I thought she was supposed to be a good cook?