Landlord Trouble...
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GnuBee

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244 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Does the collective wisdom of PH know if there is any mechanism in place to provide a recourse when a Landlord has entered a property without any prior permission and without a "chaperone"?

SpydieNut

5,956 posts

252 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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stty cushions?

Silver993tt

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268 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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GnuBee said:
Does the collective wisdom of PH know if there is any mechanism in place to provide a recourse when a Landlord has entered a property without any prior permission and without a "chaperone"?
What reason did he give for doing that?

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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Jesus, that was so bad it was almost good.

SpydieNut

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Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Silver993tt said:
GnuBee said:
Does the collective wisdom of PH know if there is any mechanism in place to provide a recourse when a Landlord has entered a property without any prior permission and without a "chaperone"?
What reason did he give for doing that?
to make the cushions stty.

keep up at the back.

robinhood21

31,110 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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The correct recourse being-->


bigandclever

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267 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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You can claim it was trespass; he can claim it was an "emergency" which requires no notice.

GnuBee

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Tuesday 20th January 2009
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The landlord has given no reason, there has been no communication, but subsequent facts have come to light that confirmed our suspicion that she entered the house in the Christmas break.

We strongly suspect they attempted to do the same yesterday as well so this is not a one off as such.

Given that they've not communicated in anyway the defense of an "emergency" would seem unlikely to hold any water.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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GnuBee said:
The landlord has given no reason, there has been no communication, but subsequent facts have come to light that confirmed our suspicion that she entered the house in the Christmas break.

We strongly suspect they attempted to do the same yesterday as well so this is not a one off as such.

Given that they've not communicated in anyway the defense of an "emergency" would seem unlikely to hold any water.
Remortgage valuation?
Agents Visit?
Simply nosy?

GnuBee

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Tuesday 20th January 2009
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scotal said:
GnuBee said:
The landlord has given no reason, there has been no communication, but subsequent facts have come to light that confirmed our suspicion that she entered the house in the Christmas break.

We strongly suspect they attempted to do the same yesterday as well so this is not a one off as such.

Given that they've not communicated in anyway the defense of an "emergency" would seem unlikely to hold any water.
Remortgage valuation?
Agents Visit?
Simply nosy?
The property is "Managed" by an Estate Agent; again the communication and they seem to also suspect that the Landlord has been in.

Simply nosy - is a possibility but they've upped the ante by claiming that we're subletting and have damage the property; none of these things are true as the managing agent can attest to.

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

237 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Maybe she wanted to wipe her fanny batter all over your pillow & toothbrush.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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GnuBee said:
scotal said:
GnuBee said:
The landlord has given no reason, there has been no communication, but subsequent facts have come to light that confirmed our suspicion that she entered the house in the Christmas break.

We strongly suspect they attempted to do the same yesterday as well so this is not a one off as such.

Given that they've not communicated in anyway the defense of an "emergency" would seem unlikely to hold any water.
Remortgage valuation?
Agents Visit?
Simply nosy?
The property is "Managed" by an Estate Agent; again the communication and they seem to also suspect that the Landlord has been in.

Simply nosy - is a possibility but they've upped the ante by claiming that we're subletting and have damage the property; none of these things are true as the managing agent can attest to.
Maybe she was showing a new agent round?
If I were you I'd be expecting to have notice served.

GnuBee

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244 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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To be honest I'm not concerned about her motivation more that she's entered the property without any permission.

How do I know that she's not walked off with my accounts from the last 2 years, my bank details, deliberately caused damage etc etc.

There must be some form of protection mechanism in place or does this just fall under some kind of "best practices" type arrangement?

And I'm fully expected notice to be served by the way...

Edited by GnuBee on Tuesday 20th January 17:11

Murray993

1,515 posts

262 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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I would imagine that access by the landlord is specified in your lease and it would require prior approval. You may be able to have redress due to breach of the lease in this case, but its a civil law matter as is trespass I think (I aint no lawyer)

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Murray993 said:
I would imagine that access by the landlord is specified in your lease and it would require prior approval. You may be able to have redress due to breach of the lease in this case, but its a civil law matter as is trespass I think (I aint no lawyer)
Is there a burden of proof on this though? i.e can Gnubee prove the landlord has been in the property?


davido140

9,614 posts

255 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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scotal said:
Murray993 said:
I would imagine that access by the landlord is specified in your lease and it would require prior approval. You may be able to have redress due to breach of the lease in this case, but its a civil law matter as is trespass I think (I aint no lawyer)
Is there a burden of proof on this though? i.e can Gnubee prove the landlord has been in the property?
+1 get on fleabay, get yourself some CCTV gubbins, set it up, wait for it to happen again.


GnuBee

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Tuesday 20th January 2009
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scotal said:
Murray993 said:
I would imagine that access by the landlord is specified in your lease and it would require prior approval. You may be able to have redress due to breach of the lease in this case, but its a civil law matter as is trespass I think (I aint no lawyer)
Is there a burden of proof on this though? i.e can Gnubee prove the landlord has been in the property?
I may well be able to; she has mentioned some things to the agent which she could only know if she had been inside; Hopefully I can get this in email form...

Murray993

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262 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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It does sound like this happens fairly often, you have to wonder why its done when you are out. Does he come round when you are in as well? If not i would get a cctv device and made it obvious, like near the front door. Or maybe get something that looks like cctv even if its not working and put it near the front door with a little sign on it saying you are on candid camera, that should help :-)

Mandat

4,614 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Why not go for the simplest solution and simply change the locks? She can no longer get in without causing visible damage.

Silver993tt

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268 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Mandat said:
Why not go for the simplest solution and simply change the locks? She can no longer get in without causing visible damage.
You would need the Landlords permission to change the locks and you would also be obliged to provide a set of keys to the Landlord since they do actually own the property smile