RE: Revised 911 GT3 RSR
RE: Revised 911 GT3 RSR
Friday 23rd January 2009

Revised 911 GT3 RSR

2009 model gets bigger engine and aerodynamic tweaks



A new version of the GT3 RSR has been announced, with a number of improvements to help it meet new class regulations in GT2.

The previous car saw race victories at the Nürburgring 24 hrs and the American Le Mans Series, so accordingly the new model applies the famous Porsche strategy of subtle, evolved changes rather than a radical redesign.

On the outside, louvres on the nose panel are designed to alter air-ducting for the radiators. At the rear, there are changes to the undercar aerodynamics and a modified rear wing allowing for greater adjustment.

The most significant change is to the flat-six engine, which has been bored out from 3.8 to 4.0-litres. But strangely, due to the changes in class regulation, power output actually drops from the previous incarnation's 465bhp down just over 3% to 450bhp.


However, Porsche has revised the torque curve to make the best of the situation, claiming that compared with its predecessor, the new RSR actually requires less revs to achieve the same levels of power. Peak power now comes at 7,800rpm, with maximum torque unchanged from the last car at 317 lb/ft, available at 7,250rpm.

The race-focussed toys on the car have gotten even more impressive, with the addition of what Porsche call a 'programmable multi-function on-board supply system control device'. What does it do, you ask? It's, er, self-explanatory. Ahem.

You can now also adjust the frequency of the blinking lights on the front apron of the car, to help pit crews identify the car in low visibility conditions, and there's a new air-jack system with an over-pressure valve. The wiring loom has been lightened, and the brakes have been weight-optimised to allow for the various changes.

The revised RSR is not cheap at approximately £413,529 (including VAT) at today's exchange rate, but it is considerably faster than a 3-bed semi in a quiet suburb. And they certainly don't have an oil-refill system with fast-filling function, relocated to the rear lid for convenience...



 

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FNG

Original Poster:

4,612 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Who else gets the impression that the author doesn't understand half of the press release he's just regurgitated?

Why not just copy out the press pack for us?


Aside from that, yes very nice, but at that price it's not even a feature on the lottery-win list.

evo801

243 posts

217 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Bad Ass-Road version please

asbo

26,140 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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...With lellow head lamps too. cool

willcrookz

11,264 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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where can these be bought from?

The Joker.

189 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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bowbowbowbow yellow headlights look amazing

don logan

3,863 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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evo801 said:
Bad Ass-Road version please
IMAGINE (and imagine being able to afford it)

carsnapper

335 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )

Cliffv8

565 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
its a hand build racer, thats why $413k

Guttered

63 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
It's running restrictors buddy, smaller ones than last year too, hence the "laugahable" figures. Wonder what it would make unrestricted...

Skinner.Daddy

108 posts

220 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Piture 1 - Pic of the week

theno23

865 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
The class it races in limits it to 450HP, I understand there's air restrictors, to cut it down to that.

carsnapper

335 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Cliffv8 said:
carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
its a hand build racer, thats why $413k
No- that's POUNDS not dollars! That's $561,000 even at the crappy exchange rate today.

And I don't really buy the 'hand built' argument either, unless that includes labour rates!

carsnapper

335 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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theno23 said:
carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
The class it races in limits it to 450HP, I understand there's air restrictors, to cut it down to that.
Ahh, that explains that then. You would have thought they could screw more that 317 lb/ft torque from the 4L flat 6 with that sort of budget, no?

LukeBird

17,170 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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evo801 said:
Bad Ass-Road version please
The RS isn't hardcore enough for road use then! wink

Wonderfully menacing to look at! thumbup

Guttered

63 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
Cliffv8 said:
carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
its a hand build racer, thats why $413k
No- that's POUNDS not dollars! That's $561,000 even at the crappy exchange rate today.

And I don't really buy the 'hand built' argument either, unless that includes labour rates!
It would have to include labour rates, it would take a considerable amount of man hours to prep a shell to GT2 regulations, so of course it has to be factored in.

dino ferrana

791 posts

274 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Low volume = expensive. If you make panels for a normal 911 you sell tens of thousands so the cost of the tools is minimal to make them. There will be probably far less than 100 RSR's made and so each new part is only made in very small numbers and so the customer pays a big proportion of the tooling cost.

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Doesn't look as good as it used to does it?
I hope the next GT3 RS road car doesn't have such huge rear wheel arches.

carsnapper

335 posts

263 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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dino ferrana said:
Low volume = expensive. If you make panels for a normal 911 you sell tens of thousands so the cost of the tools is minimal to make them. There will be probably far less than 100 RSR's made and so each new part is only made in very small numbers and so the customer pays a big proportion of the tooling cost.
Yer, fair enough. I get the economies of scale situation...but still it's an awful lot of dosh relative to the performance. You'd have to have money to burn...

Guttered

63 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
dino ferrana said:
Low volume = expensive. If you make panels for a normal 911 you sell tens of thousands so the cost of the tools is minimal to make them. There will be probably far less than 100 RSR's made and so each new part is only made in very small numbers and so the customer pays a big proportion of the tooling cost.
Yer, fair enough. I get the economies of scale situation...but still it's an awful lot of dosh relative to the performance. You'd have to have money to burn...
It's running air restrictors that are mandatory for its class, the performance is limited by the governing body so to criticise it on a £ per bhp level is just a touch short sighted.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

215 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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carsnapper said:
Er, I don't get it....

All i'm reading is 450 HP and a laughable 317 lb/ft torque for, drum role please, £413,529....that's a joke, right?

I don't care if it comes with green headlights, near half a million for that? No.

(yer, yer, yer I know it's not all about HP and torque and stats! I know it incredible around a track, I know it's a great racing car...BUT - half a million quid for a Porsche with 317 lb/ft torque...nucking futs laugh )
Its a race car, get it RACE? their not looking for customers like you who think in power it's aimed @ people who race. The car is restrcited to comply with race class regulations..did you even read the article? do you even understand what goes into building a race car? what would a bttc touring car cost to build?
If you wanted to compete..you can buy this..maybe a spare block or 2...some brake pads, few gallons of oil, some race fuel and away you go.