Sons carjacking (update)
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Apache

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39,731 posts

304 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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Son was carjacked on the 26th April, finally (after writing a letter of complaint to the Chief Constable) he was permitted to attend a photo ID because the scrote (we found out who he was through some research of our own) who pinched the car claimed he had a sick relative and could not attend. Naturally after nearly 7 months my son was unable to identify his attacker from the pictures of teenagers he was given.
Frankly I am at a loss to see how the police can actually do anything other than pick on law abiding motorists when the system fails to deliver in such an alarming manner.
The lunatics have most certainly taken over the asylum and I'd advise everyone to protect themselves because you are on your own out there

>>> Edited by Apache on Saturday 25th October 16:38

rich 36

13,739 posts

286 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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had wondered about the outcome but i suppose i may have well have not bothered i think our police are wonderfull not

dazren

22,612 posts

281 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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RICH - I take issue with that statement!

The BiB are on the front line are doing a very hard job that is made impossible by the government, the courts and the politically motivated Chief Constables (some of whom seem incapable of running a bath, let alone clearing up burglaries in North Wales ).

APACHE - Very sorry to read what has happened. I just hope the scrote one day comes up against a "victim" prepared to give the er a life lesson in the form of a beating to within an inch of his life. Hopefully this will take place away from CCTV cameras which should all be doing the important job of pointing at Gatso Scameras.

DAZ

HarryW

15,748 posts

289 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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dazren said:
RICH - I take issue with that statement!

The BiB are on the front line are doing a very hard job that is made impossible by the government, the courts and the politically motivated Chief Constables (some of whom seem incapable of running a bath, let alone clearing up burglaries in North Wales ).

APACHE - Very sorry to read what has happened. I just hope the scrote one day comes up against a "victim" prepared to give the er a life lesson in the form of a beating to within an inch of his life. Hopefully this will take place away from CCTV cameras which should all be doing the important job of pointing at Gatso Scameras.

DAZ

Second DAz's post above .
Need to find ways to overcome this apparent lack of respect being shown in this country to each other. Culminating in twats thinking its OK to behave like they do. As already said, the only answer at present is to meet out instant justice, asssuming you're capable. But the system is so F**ked up this is considered a worse crime, go figure

Harry

SpudGunner

472 posts

279 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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dazren said:


APACHE - Very sorry to read what has happened. I just hope the scrote one day comes up against a "victim" prepared to give the er a life lesson in the form of a beating to within an inch of his life. Hopefully this will take place away from CCTV cameras which should all be doing the important job of pointing at Gatso Scameras.

DAZ


I can see what you are saying but the problem is that if we retaliate, the courts end up throwing the book at joe public while the criminals who know how to play/milk the system get away with it scott free.

TBH the way the sad world we live in is, you would prob be better off finishing them off. It angers me when I see people that break into houses whilst the owners are in (and the criminals know they are in) and then the homeowner gives em a good pumelling and they end up getting off worse.

Although it might sound extreme, Tony Martin did the right thing trying to polish off some gypos who were breaking into his house. Tough sh1t for trying to break in in the first place. Its not like he invited em in. An englishmans home/car is his castle

Big_M

5,602 posts

283 months

Saturday 25th October 2003
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I still think the best way forward is to bring back the stocks for convicted petty criminals. Public humiliation is the only way you can reach some of these scoats. And it will be a good way of using up the rotten tomatoes (GM ones). Not only will the criminal be publically named and shamed you could raise extra cash for charity by selling rotten veg.

safetyfirst

169 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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a 20 year old girl who works with my wife was walking her dogs in her local park when a man attacked her physically (not sexually), she reported it to her local police station and the reply she got was "we have more important things to do you know"!!!
they came out to interview her almost two weeks later!
soon after they interviewed her she saw the same man again, as she was with her fiance this time they followed him and saw him go into a house (presumably his home)
she told the police the address and to date (about 3 months ago now) she has heard no more!
she said she has given in now as the police she feels are not bothered with her
would it be any different though if it had been a sexual attack?
incidentally she still suffers nightmares over the attack and is still not right in herself
what i am saying her is that the bib dont seem to care anymore, is it because they havetoo much paperwork or what?


>> Edited by safetyfirst on Sunday 26th October 00:12

madant69

847 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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Big_M said:
I still think the best way forward is to bring back the stocks for convicted petty criminals. Public humiliation is the only way you can reach some of these scoats. And it will be a good way of using up the rotten tomatoes (GM ones). Not only will the criminal be publically named and shamed you could raise extra cash for charity by selling rotten veg.


This would be a great idea if it weren't for one thing...the people we're talking about have no pride.

They have thrown away every chance they have been given, wasted their education and are unemployable.

The only time they get up early is if one of their 14 year old pregnant mates is going to be on Trisha.

They feel so bad about themselves that they want to ruin someone elses day, just to feel a tiny bit better.

And they aspire to be nothing greater than they are.

We could use bricks though...there must be reject bricks we could use...

rich 36

13,739 posts

286 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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IFFFF the bib stop collecting road-side revenue and actually concentrate on something other than escorting wide loads or persecuting lonely teddy loving rural home owners for protecting what is theirs...IFF they could tear themselves away from community projects involving baseball-capped missunderstood youth and gambian safaris THEN they might get my vote
as the last time i saw one he was waiting for the off' on his motorbike beside a scamera van thank you and not, doing anything else

rich 36

13,739 posts

286 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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and another thing they should stop clogging up the airwaves near Cambell sq Police station with the illegal band thye use as it prevente us the wage payers from getting our cars locked/un-locked
thank you

Chrisgr31

14,177 posts

275 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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rich 36 said:
IFFFF the bib stop collecting road-side revenue and actually concentrate on something other than escorting wide loads or persecuting lonely teddy loving rural home owners for protecting what is theirs...IFF they could tear themselves away from community projects involving baseball-capped missunderstood youth and gambian safaris THEN they might get my vote
as the last time i saw one he was waiting for the off' on his motorbike beside a scamera van thank you and not, doing anything else


Well until the politicans change the targets the police will continue to do the things they do.

Laving aside the fact that in many cases speed cameras are operated by "Safety Partnerships" usually a non-elected group formed from councils and police, and of course designed toenable people to deny responsibilty.

However the fact is we need to get the politicans to alter the targets.

Apache

Original Poster:

39,731 posts

304 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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I've put together a letter for my MP, it's a sorry state of affairs when you have to go to these lengths to see any justice

millasur

55 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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20 year old girl who works with my wife was walking her dogs in her local park when a man attacked her physically (not sexually), she reported it to her local police station and the reply she got was "we have more important things to do you know"!!!
they came out to interview her almost two weeks later!
soon after they interviewed her she saw the same man again, as she was with her fiance this time they followed him and saw him go into a house (presumably his home)
she told the police the address and to date (about 3 months ago now) she has heard no more!
she said she has given in now as the police she feels are not bothered with her
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should go to the newspapers shouldnt she? mite as well get some good out of the situation lol

xsaravtr

801 posts

282 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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safetyfirst said:
a 20 year old girl who works with my wife was walking her dogs in her local park when a man attacked her physically (not sexually), she reported it to her local police station and the reply she got was "we have more important things to do you know"!!!
they came out to interview her almost two weeks later!
soon after they interviewed her she saw the same man again, as she was with her fiance this time they followed him and saw him go into a house (presumably his home)
she told the police the address and to date (about 3 months ago now) she has heard no more!
she said she has given in now as the police she feels are not bothered with her
would it be any different though if it had been a sexual attack?
incidentally she still suffers nightmares over the attack and is still not right in herself
what i am saying her is that the bib dont seem to care anymore, is it because they havetoo much paperwork or what?


>> Edited by safetyfirst on Sunday 26th October 00:12


Can she not sue him on the grounds of mental anguish and physical harm? After all if they know where he lives and the small fact that he attacked her should be enough for the courts to do something, wouldn't it?

alans

3,617 posts

276 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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xsaravtr said:

safetyfirst said:
a 20 year old girl who works with my wife was walking her dogs in her local park when a man attacked her physically (not sexually), she reported it to her local police station and the reply she got was "we have more important things to do you know"!!!
they came out to interview her almost two weeks later!
soon after they interviewed her she saw the same man again, as she was with her fiance this time they followed him and saw him go into a house (presumably his home)
she told the police the address and to date (about 3 months ago now) she has heard no more!
she said she has given in now as the police she feels are not bothered with her
would it be any different though if it had been a sexual attack?
incidentally she still suffers nightmares over the attack and is still not right in herself
what i am saying her is that the bib dont seem to care anymore, is it because they havetoo much paperwork or what?


>> Edited by safetyfirst on Sunday 26th October 00:12



Can she not sue him on the grounds of mental anguish and physical harm? After all if they know where he lives and the small fact that he attacked her should be enough for the courts to do something, wouldn't it?

Invest £100 and get the sh*t kicked out of him.

318ti

208 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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I think it's quite obvious rich has no idea what policing is really like.
Rich, what do you do for a living? It's just that i want to tell you how to do your job too.

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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318ti said:
I think it's quite obvious rich has no idea what policing is really like.
Rich, what do you do for a living? It's just that i want to tell you how to do your job too.


I appriciate where you are coming from on this one but I can see rich's point of view very clearly.

As joe public all we see and know is PEOPLE STANDING AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD OR IN VANS WITH LASERS!

I know for a fact that in the last 40,000 miles (1 years worth) I have seen more laser traps than i have seen coppers!!! On top of that we hear of chief constables bleating on about speeding and various other POLICE figures doing the same.

THEY REPRESENT the police force and that is all I see in the role of joe public. I know more luckily from being educated by the various BiB on this forum but the point still stands.

If I turn up at a site where another engineer from my company has f**ked up I wouldnt blame the customer for saying ***** co. are sh!t! I AM THE FACE OF THE COMPANY so I will try and put things right but until I do they will think we are cr@p.

The chiefs are not doing anything to put things right therefore police are getting a bad and vindictive-aginst-the-motorist image so until that is changed, this is where we are at.

mode off.

318ti

208 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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We'll my chief has just said that we are no longer being marked on the number of tickets etc we do. chiefy wants us to target on crimes such as burglary and anti social behaviour etc.


>> Edited by 318ti on Sunday 26th October 16:48

hedders

24,460 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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318ti said:
We'll my chief has just said that we are no longer being marked on the number of tickets etc we do. chiefy wants us to target on crimes such as burglary and anti social behaviour etc.




gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Sunday 26th October 2003
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318ti said:
We'll my chief has just said that we are no longer being marked on the number of tickets etc we do. chiefy wants us to target on crimes such as burglary and anti social behaviour etc.


>> Edited by 318ti on Sunday 26th October 16:48


Excellent

Now get this message to the public and watch how the respect practically FLOODS back to the police force

Problem is Joe Q dont ever hear it, they only hear the demented ramblings of richard tossstrum.