Intergrale lowering - good or bad
Discussion
OK - fair point.
To be honest its more aesthetics than anything. But want to know whether it betters the handling or not?
I will say - I traded my 993 Porsche for a 996 a few years ago. It handled that much worse than the 993 I had to throw £1500 at Paragon Racing to have them set up my geometry and lower it which made the WORLD of difference!
Doesn't say a lot for Porsches engineers does it...... Hmmm
Phew.... thats better. Held that in for years
To be honest its more aesthetics than anything. But want to know whether it betters the handling or not?
I will say - I traded my 993 Porsche for a 996 a few years ago. It handled that much worse than the 993 I had to throw £1500 at Paragon Racing to have them set up my geometry and lower it which made the WORLD of difference!
Doesn't say a lot for Porsches engineers does it...... Hmmm
Phew.... thats better. Held that in for years
There are a few things you can do to make your Evo2 have that low stance look.
The first option is to fit Lancia Final Edition spring. This will reduce your ride height and give you the look your after. It will also reduce understeer and make your car turn in quicker but your ride will be harsh and you will hit your bump stop more often.Plus this set up with 17" wheels can induce stress cracks.
The second option is to fit adjustable coilovers. One of the best on the market is the RSR suspension which was tested at the Nurburgring especially for the Integrale.
The good thing about coilovers is that you can adjust the ride height to how you want it, plus they have 8 different suspension settings.
There are other coilover kits available which will do the job if you don't track your car,you would have to do your own research into this.
The first option is to fit Lancia Final Edition spring. This will reduce your ride height and give you the look your after. It will also reduce understeer and make your car turn in quicker but your ride will be harsh and you will hit your bump stop more often.Plus this set up with 17" wheels can induce stress cracks.
The second option is to fit adjustable coilovers. One of the best on the market is the RSR suspension which was tested at the Nurburgring especially for the Integrale.
The good thing about coilovers is that you can adjust the ride height to how you want it, plus they have 8 different suspension settings.
There are other coilover kits available which will do the job if you don't track your car,you would have to do your own research into this.
As already mentioned, FE springs are a general improvement for fast driving on smooth roads and, but can give a crashy ride down B roads.
Koni... the less said the better.
Leda (now called something else, as Leda went bust a year or two ago) did a fairly reasonable coilover kit, though it is not renowned for its longevity. I know a couple of people who had bent damper rods.
RSR is the best all-round value for money. A well set up car on these will give a better ride than standard on road and better characteristics on track. You can choose your spring rates/heights and adjust damper settings.
Ohlins are even better than RSR, but twice as much.
Alternatively, you can get re-valved Bilsteins, as used by the factory rally team. These use the standard size spring, but you choose the rate and the damper settings. The dampers will not be adjustable on the car, but can be changed with the right specialist equipment.
Or you can go for a full 3-way adjustable Proflex setup, which is 5 figure sum.
There are some other setups available from Europe (e.g. KWS and others), but the above are "tried-and-tested".
Is lowering "good or bad"? It depends what you want to do with it. If it's for road and track driving dynamics on an Evo 2 and you can afford it, then go with Ohlins, otherwise RSR. If it's for "looks", then FE springs and standard dampers will be fine, but make sure you modify your bump stops - some advocate the use of modified Paugeot 205 GTI bumpstops.
HTH
p.s. The word is "integrale"
Koni... the less said the better.
Leda (now called something else, as Leda went bust a year or two ago) did a fairly reasonable coilover kit, though it is not renowned for its longevity. I know a couple of people who had bent damper rods.
RSR is the best all-round value for money. A well set up car on these will give a better ride than standard on road and better characteristics on track. You can choose your spring rates/heights and adjust damper settings.
Ohlins are even better than RSR, but twice as much.
Alternatively, you can get re-valved Bilsteins, as used by the factory rally team. These use the standard size spring, but you choose the rate and the damper settings. The dampers will not be adjustable on the car, but can be changed with the right specialist equipment.
Or you can go for a full 3-way adjustable Proflex setup, which is 5 figure sum.
There are some other setups available from Europe (e.g. KWS and others), but the above are "tried-and-tested".
Is lowering "good or bad"? It depends what you want to do with it. If it's for road and track driving dynamics on an Evo 2 and you can afford it, then go with Ohlins, otherwise RSR. If it's for "looks", then FE springs and standard dampers will be fine, but make sure you modify your bump stops - some advocate the use of modified Paugeot 205 GTI bumpstops.
HTH
p.s. The word is "integrale"
jacobyte said:
As already mentioned, FE springs are a general improvement for fast driving on smooth roads and, but can give a crashy ride down B roads.
Koni... the less said the better.
Leda (now called something else, as Leda went bust a year or two ago) did a fairly reasonable coilover kit, though it is not renowned for its longevity. I know a couple of people who had bent damper rods.
RSR is the best all-round value for money. A well set up car on these will give a better ride than standard on road and better characteristics on track. You can choose your spring rates/heights and adjust damper settings.
Ohlins are even better than RSR, but twice as much.
Alternatively, you can get re-valved Bilsteins, as used by the factory rally team. These use the standard size spring, but you choose the rate and the damper settings. The dampers will not be adjustable on the car, but can be changed with the right specialist equipment.
Or you can go for a full 3-way adjustable Proflex setup, which is 5 figure sum.
There are some other setups available from Europe (e.g. KWS and others), but the above are "tried-and-tested".
Is lowering "good or bad"? It depends what you want to do with it. If it's for road and track driving dynamics on an Evo 2 and you can afford it, then go with Ohlins, otherwise RSR. If it's for "looks", then FE springs and standard dampers will be fine, but make sure you modify your bump stops - some advocate the use of modified Paugeot 205 GTI bumpstops.
HTH
p.s. The word is "integrale"
Thanks all for the excellent advice - much appreciated. Think I might leave for moment until I get a drive in a modified car.Koni... the less said the better.
Leda (now called something else, as Leda went bust a year or two ago) did a fairly reasonable coilover kit, though it is not renowned for its longevity. I know a couple of people who had bent damper rods.
RSR is the best all-round value for money. A well set up car on these will give a better ride than standard on road and better characteristics on track. You can choose your spring rates/heights and adjust damper settings.
Ohlins are even better than RSR, but twice as much.
Alternatively, you can get re-valved Bilsteins, as used by the factory rally team. These use the standard size spring, but you choose the rate and the damper settings. The dampers will not be adjustable on the car, but can be changed with the right specialist equipment.
Or you can go for a full 3-way adjustable Proflex setup, which is 5 figure sum.
There are some other setups available from Europe (e.g. KWS and others), but the above are "tried-and-tested".
Is lowering "good or bad"? It depends what you want to do with it. If it's for road and track driving dynamics on an Evo 2 and you can afford it, then go with Ohlins, otherwise RSR. If it's for "looks", then FE springs and standard dampers will be fine, but make sure you modify your bump stops - some advocate the use of modified Paugeot 205 GTI bumpstops.
HTH
p.s. The word is "integrale"
...as for the p.s - my spelling is s
t.I have been looking for stuff on Ebay etc and wondered why I wasn't finding much. I was putting in 'Intergrale'. I've even been told before........ penis!!!
Cheers
Neil
The ride height is always a compromise for the road. There are two man made things visible from space The Great Wall of China and the pot holes on the A47 Swaffham to Norwich. If you lower you car more than 30mm consider uprating your CV joints as they will be more stressed. To make the gap between the tyre and arch smaller, fit bigger wheels. Compomotive MO's for the rally look and show off your brakes. To keep the purists happy platform adjustables so you can have the standard look for the cloth cap polishers and slam it for the chavs. Anyway it's your car; does it matter what anyone else thinks?
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