Overfinch Classics
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Paw

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184 posts

205 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Hi I'm looking for any info on the Classic RR's modified by Overfinch. Anyone have any or know of any cars for sale.?

Thank

Paul.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Overfinch used adapted versions of the 5.0ltr Camaro engine.And the 5.7ltr L98 and later LT1 from the Corvette range,in there 500s and 570ci models.Apart from some fancy bits of interior trim.You could also spec the GM 400 auto box and a quick ratio steering box,along with sports suspension.

Edited by BLUETHUNDER on Monday 26th January 19:20

Paw

Original Poster:

184 posts

205 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Do you have anymore details on what was done to the Sus and steering? Does it work?

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Paw said:
Do you have anymore details on what was done to the Sus and steering? Does it work?
I have an old brochure somewhere with the specs.I have to say the quick ratio box does work along with the suspension set up.Although a lot of work was done on spring rates,a lot of attention was placed on uprating to a stiffer ARB.most noticable when throwing it in to a corner.Although off road work is a bit stunted,as the whole set-up is fast road biased.My mate has a couple on the books.Will have to have a good look,the next time they are in.

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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I had a drive of their last 570 classic with all of the mods when my Dad was looking at imrpoving his final edition classic (14 of 25) in the late 90s.
The steering rack was a nice improvement, sharpening up the front end nicely. They had these produced as a batch and might still have some in stock.
Suspension defaulted to a lower cruise height sooner if I remember and was complemented by koni shocks and avon turbospeed (Bentley Turbo R Spec) tyres. It cornered more flatly and rode better, with fewer shudders through the body.
Vastly reduced wind noise from secondary seals on the doors.
Extensive sound deadening reduced road noise, but still let through the throaty roar of the small block chevy.
The gearbox was a bit slow to kick down, but the car shifted when it did.

This particular car was silver and also had padded leather armrests on the doors, xenons and extensive body colouring.
A quality product but the parts were expensive due to their bespoke nature.

There are quite a few cars around with certain Overfinch items on but very few with the full treatment (c.£40k plus a car).
H R Owen put quite a few differentials from overfinch in the 50th anniversary 90s to improve the performance as the original diff/gearbox combination made the car sluggish.
They also used to use certain Overfinch items to create special editions with vastly increases retail prices (The days before the internet!)

There were a few very early Overfinch cars with Jag V12s in! Easily distinguished by a lengthend front end and vents in the side of the bonnet. Don't know if any still exist though.


Edited by JimexPL on Tuesday 27th January 23:49

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Never heard of Overfinch diffs being fitted to the 50th Anniversary 90.Range Rover diffs but not Overfinch.To be honest i never thought the standard set-up in the 90 was sluggish anyway.

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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BLUETHUNDER said:
Never heard of Overfinch diffs being fitted to the 50th Anniversary 90.Range Rover diffs but not Overfinch.To be honest i never thought the standard set-up in the 90 was sluggish anyway.
I expect that the diffs were a standard Land Rover/Range Rover ratio - Did the V8 come with 3.54 s? - but H R Owen got them to change the diffs and re calibrate the speedos accordingly.

Unless you bought your anniversary 90 new and had access to another one would you know if the diff was the original ratio?
It is unlikely that any of the first owners that bought themas chelsea tractors would have kept additional paperwork such as diff swaps!

I believe that the gearing was quite high to get a reasonable highway mpg for the NAS cars...

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Surely the sensible thing to do is find a tidy 2 door Rangie and drop an LS3 in it. driving

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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JimexPL said:
BLUETHUNDER said:
Never heard of Overfinch diffs being fitted to the 50th Anniversary 90.Range Rover diffs but not Overfinch.To be honest i never thought the standard set-up in the 90 was sluggish anyway.
I expect that the diffs were a standard Land Rover/Range Rover ratio - Did the V8 come with 3.54 s? - but H R Owen got them to change the diffs and re calibrate the speedos accordingly.

Unless you bought your anniversary 90 new and had access to another one would you know if the diff was the original ratio?
It is unlikely that any of the first owners that bought themas chelsea tractors would have kept additional paperwork such as diff swaps!

I believe that the gearing was quite high to get a reasonable highway mpg for the NAS cars...
They are indeed 3.54 diffs fitted.And mine still has those fitted.Still have the speed limiter in place at well.

Paw

Original Poster:

184 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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The 2door with an LS3 sounds great, but a good 2DR is not an easy thing to find..

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

282 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Paw said:
The 2door with an LS3 sounds great, but a good 2DR is not an easy thing to find..
Find a nice CSK,then dothe conversion.My mate had CSK 002 with a SC fitted.Worked a treat.

Bish

809 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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JimexPL said:
I had a drive of their last 570 classic with all of the mods when my Dad was looking at imrpoving his final edition classic (14 of 25) in the late 90s.
The steering rack was a nice improvement, sharpening up the front end nicely. They had these produced as a batch and might still have some in stock.
Suspension defaulted to a lower cruise height sooner if I remember and was complemented by koni shocks and avon turbospeed (Bentley Turbo R Spec) tyres. It cornered more flatly and rode better, with fewer shudders through the body.
Vastly reduced wind noise from secondary seals on the doors.
Extensive sound deadening reduced road noise, but still let through the throaty roar of the small block chevy.
The gearbox was a bit slow to kick down, but the car shifted when it did.

This particular car was silver and also had padded leather armrests on the doors, xenons and extensive body colouring.
A quality product but the parts were expensive due to their bespoke nature.

There are quite a few cars around with certain Overfinch items on but very few with the full treatment (c.£40k plus a car).
H R Owen put quite a few differentials from overfinch in the 50th anniversary 90s to improve the performance as the original diff/gearbox combination made the car sluggish.
They also used to use certain Overfinch items to create special editions with vastly increases retail prices (The days before the internet!)

There were a few very early Overfinch cars with Jag V12s in! Easily distinguished by a lengthend front end and vents in the side of the bonnet. Don't know if any still exist though.


Edited by JimexPL on Tuesday 27th January 23:49
As I understand it the 'Overfinch' steering box is just the Adwest engineering quick ratio box that I have fitted to my Defender and LSE. Makes a huge difference!

I reckon one could make a Classic better than an 'Overfinch Classic' just by choosing the right parts.......as they did!

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Mike, did you used to work with Louis at Hunt & Keal?

dealmaker

2,215 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Bish said:
JimexPL said:
I had a drive of their last 570 classic with all of the mods when my Dad was looking at imrpoving his final edition classic (14 of 25) in the late 90s.
The steering rack was a nice improvement, sharpening up the front end nicely. They had these produced as a batch and might still have some in stock.
Suspension defaulted to a lower cruise height sooner if I remember and was complemented by koni shocks and avon turbospeed (Bentley Turbo R Spec) tyres. It cornered more flatly and rode better, with fewer shudders through the body.
Vastly reduced wind noise from secondary seals on the doors.
Extensive sound deadening reduced road noise, but still let through the throaty roar of the small block chevy.
The gearbox was a bit slow to kick down, but the car shifted when it did.

This particular car was silver and also had padded leather armrests on the doors, xenons and extensive body colouring.
A quality product but the parts were expensive due to their bespoke nature.

There are quite a few cars around with certain Overfinch items on but very few with the full treatment (c.£40k plus a car).
H R Owen put quite a few differentials from overfinch in the 50th anniversary 90s to improve the performance as the original diff/gearbox combination made the car sluggish.
They also used to use certain Overfinch items to create special editions with vastly increases retail prices (The days before the internet!)

There were a few very early Overfinch cars with Jag V12s in! Easily distinguished by a lengthend front end and vents in the side of the bonnet. Don't know if any still exist though.


Edited by JimexPL on Tuesday 27th January 23:49
As I understand it the 'Overfinch' steering box is just the Adwest engineering quick ratio box that I have fitted to my Defender and LSE. Makes a huge difference!

I reckon one could make a Classic better than an 'Overfinch Classic' just by choosing the right parts.......as they did!
Does anyone have contact details for the correct steering box manufacturer?

Also very interested in the secondary door seals?.......are these only available from Overfinch - and are they easy to fit??

Any other Overfinch Classic mods worth considering?

Bish

809 posts

229 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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JimexPL said:
Mike, did you used to work with Louis at Hunt & Keal?
Sure did.......how do you know him?

Bish

809 posts

229 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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dealmaker said:
Bish said:
JimexPL said:
I had a drive of their last 570 classic with all of the mods when my Dad was looking at imrpoving his final edition classic (14 of 25) in the late 90s.
The steering rack was a nice improvement, sharpening up the front end nicely. They had these produced as a batch and might still have some in stock.
Suspension defaulted to a lower cruise height sooner if I remember and was complemented by koni shocks and avon turbospeed (Bentley Turbo R Spec) tyres. It cornered more flatly and rode better, with fewer shudders through the body.
Vastly reduced wind noise from secondary seals on the doors.
Extensive sound deadening reduced road noise, but still let through the throaty roar of the small block chevy.
The gearbox was a bit slow to kick down, but the car shifted when it did.

This particular car was silver and also had padded leather armrests on the doors, xenons and extensive body colouring.
A quality product but the parts were expensive due to their bespoke nature.

There are quite a few cars around with certain Overfinch items on but very few with the full treatment (c.£40k plus a car).
H R Owen put quite a few differentials from overfinch in the 50th anniversary 90s to improve the performance as the original diff/gearbox combination made the car sluggish.
They also used to use certain Overfinch items to create special editions with vastly increases retail prices (The days before the internet!)

There were a few very early Overfinch cars with Jag V12s in! Easily distinguished by a lengthend front end and vents in the side of the bonnet. Don't know if any still exist though.


Edited by JimexPL on Tuesday 27th January 23:49
As I understand it the 'Overfinch' steering box is just the Adwest engineering quick ratio box that I have fitted to my Defender and LSE. Makes a huge difference!

I reckon one could make a Classic better than an 'Overfinch Classic' just by choosing the right parts.......as they did!
Does anyone have contact details for the correct steering box manufacturer?

Also very interested in the secondary door seals?.......are these only available from Overfinch - and are they easy to fit??

Any other Overfinch Classic mods worth considering?
http://www.adwest-engineering.co.uk/

They make them for Land rover and also do uprated one.

dealmaker

2,215 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Thanks Mike!

Anyone know anything about the Overfinch door seals, Brakes or anything else I should be considering to fit to a Classic??

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Bish said:
JimexPL said:
Mike, did you used to work with Louis at Hunt & Keal?
Sure did.......how do you know him?
I worked with Louis at Volvo, then he worked for me at Corvette Park Lane then Jaguar Burnham.

He now resides as landlord of the Royal Oak in North Woodchester (Cotswolds).

I see that the H&K showroom is now empty...

JimexPL

1,451 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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dealmaker said:
Thanks Mike!

Anyone know anything about the Overfinch door seals, Brakes or anything else I should be considering to fit to a Classic??
I expect that the brakes were one of the off the shelf upgrades. Unless some knows otherwise, the door seals were made specifically for Overfinch, and they would not supply them to you 'off the shelf' (unlike the steering box). They were a soft rubber sealing the gap between the door/window frame and the shell. The large hole between the bulkhead and the bonnet was also filled in.

dealmaker

2,215 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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JimexPL said:
dealmaker said:
Thanks Mike!

Anyone know anything about the Overfinch door seals, Brakes or anything else I should be considering to fit to a Classic??
I expect that the brakes were one of the off the shelf upgrades. Unless some knows otherwise, the door seals were made specifically for Overfinch, and they would not supply them to you 'off the shelf' (unlike the steering box). They were a soft rubber sealing the gap between the door/window frame and the shell. The large hole between the bulkhead and the bonnet was also filled in.
Thanks - I will call Overfinch tomorrow and see if they will sell me the seal kit - I assume they arent active in the conversion of Classics anymore - what with all the Chav RRS's they are moddifying!