So Noble is a "pseudo race car"...

[AMG Merc]

Well that's OK with me. And an interesting comment about hp & torques being equal (as the M12's is - give or take 2).

From Al Melling interview...
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

What qualities should a good sports car have? And what makes a good engine?

In my opinion a good sports car should be a car with good handling, open or closed top, make the right noises, and look good especially from a classical point of view from the days of 'wind in the hair' sports cars. A number of modern sports cars, with slots, wings and grooves are not sports cars, they are pseudo race cars. Regarding the engine, the engine should be bullet proof and horsepower and torque should be almost equal. It should be that when you strap yourself in and you press the start button you are mindful that you are about to embark down the Mulsanne straight.

[Biggriff]

Depends if you think he talks twaddle.

[Adrian W]

Biggriff said:

Depends if you think he talks twaddle.

Has he designed any engines that haven't gone bang?

[Biggriff]

nicely put, and the 'new Griff' is basically a kit car (no windows and a temporary roof). Enough said.

[NobleGuy]

AMG Merc said:

It should be that when you strap yourself in and you press the start button you are mindful that you are about to embark down the Mulsanne straight.

I must admit when I go out for blast on a sunny day I do get that feeling I'm off down the pit lane onto the track. Not in a 'Let's scare the grannies to death' kind of way, but it just feels completely different to the Proton I use for most of my everyday miles. The noise, the sound, the smell (I know the cabin shouldn't smell of petrol, but I like it ).

I feel like I'm in something special.

[node]

NobleGuy said:

(I know the cabin shouldn't smell of petrol, but I like it )

Hey me too

[F.C.]

He's running on class A's all the way.
I miss my Noble; I liked the whole thing (except the air con).
As for the engine being bullet proof, well it depends for how long
F.C.

[AMG Merc]

F.C. said:

He's running on class A's all the way.
I miss my Noble; I liked the whole thing (except the air con).
As for the engine being bullet proof, well it depends for how long
F.C.

Your latsest beastie looked good on the North Circular Tony - a bit bright mind

[F.C.]

AMG Merc said:

F.C. said:

He's running on class A's all the way.
I miss my Noble; I liked the whole thing (except the air con).
As for the engine being bullet proof, well it depends for how long
F.C.

Your latsest beastie looked good on the North Circular Tony - a bit bright mind

Dayglo green is the new silver dont'cha know

F.C.

[andygtt]

Biggriff said:

nicely put, and the 'new Griff' is basically a kit car (no windows and a temporary roof). Enough said.

Thats rubbish, Im an accountant and even I managed to acheive both of those (ie proper windows and a proper roof) so its hardly rocket science... I also completely disagree with what he says about how the power should be produced in a proper powerful car you need more power than torque IMO.