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rude-boy

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22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7850342.stm

can't believe there hasn't been a thread up here today about this, especially as it all got a little heated the last time it was discussed.

One bit which amused me was "Ms Smith said stronger "skunk" varieties account for 80% of the cannabis seized on the streets, and that the drug is nearly three times stronger than in 1995. " Just had a chat with a friend of a friend who's answer was "I fking wish. If anything it's worse and these days you never know what st's been added to get the weight up and to make it look heavy."

Another thing. So you get stopped on the street, caught with a reefer and told not to be so naughty - I take it you get a Criminal Record for this or is that not the case?


Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

BigLepton

5,042 posts

230 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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rude-boy said:
"I fking wish. If anything it's worse and these days you never know what st's been added to get the weight up and to make it look heavy."
Shock, horror! Some readers were startled to discover drug dealers were not to be trusted! yikes

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

237 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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1st time it's a roadside warning (or was don't know about now).

Those that say it causes mental problems it's more a case of people having underlying mental problems they can now blame on the ganja.

Should be legal as most people have at least tried it and a fair few of them try it regulary & often. It'd free up the police more to deal with hard drugs and other crime. Also it'd be a nice taxable earner for Meltdown Brown.


rah1888

1,589 posts

216 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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a friend of a friend, eh!!?

M3CHA-MONK3Y

6,095 posts

224 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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I heard that caught once is a caution, twice a fine and three times arrested.
Only resin or solid is usually mixed and it's true, the strength has dropped quite a bit over the years. Weed on the other hand has got a lot stronger. It's stupid really, they want it made a higher class because they think it causes psychosis or something, but can't prove it without research. They've been saying this for years and yet still no long term research has been done.

Legalise and regulate, it's the only way to be sure. Cannabis law is a joke anyway, noone takes it seriously.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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rah1888 said:
a friend of a friend, eh!!?
Which translates to "i've smoked too much skunk and am now a paranoid schizophrenic with multiple personalities, the friends are in my head" wobble


rude-boy

Original Poster:

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Marf said:
This, sir, I am aware of; you might even note my very own contributions before now wink

It was just that nothing had been said in light of today's addition to the debate.



Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Apologies sire smokin

I still can't see the police handling it any differently, that is unless the targets culture affects things.

krallicious

4,312 posts

234 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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rude-boy said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7850342.stm

can't believe there hasn't been a thread up here today about this, especially as it all got a little heated the last time it was discussed.

One bit which amused me was "Ms Smith said stronger "skunk" varieties account for 80% of the cannabis seized on the streets, and that the drug is nearly three times stronger than in 1995. " Just had a chat with a friend of a friend who's answer was "I fking wish. If anything it's worse and these days you never know what st's been added to get the weight up and to make it look heavy."

Another thing. So you get stopped on the street, caught with a reefer and told not to be so naughty - I take it you get a Criminal Record for this or is that not the case?
Which is why you need to find a good 'friend' who grows all of his own supplies and only his mates know about what he does.

The Excession

11,669 posts

279 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Marf said:
Apologies sire smokin

I still can't see the police handling it any differently, that is unless the targets culture affects things.
They have to handle it differently now... that is the law, Sir.

Marf

22,907 posts

270 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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The Excession said:
Marf said:
Apologies sire smokin

I still can't see the police handling it any differently, that is unless the targets culture affects things.
They have to handle it differently now... that is the law, Sir.
It was the law before though too before downgrading it to Class C, and it wasnt enforced rigorously then.

rude-boy

Original Poster:

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
Weed on the other hand has got a lot stronger.
Sorry, the person I was talking to was talking about what these little darlings would deem to be skunk. Resin is something they gave up on health grounds in the early '90's.

M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
Legalise and regulate, it's the only way to be sure. Cannabis law is a joke anyway, no one takes it seriously.
Agree with the first part, disagree with the bold. Some people take it far too seriously, meaning that some can't risk taking it at all!

cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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I think I must be the only person who lives in my village that doesn't grow their own.
We actually had a local guy who got caught when he'd dug a tunnel under a hill on his land. They only found it cos they were looking for some young car theif with a thermal imaging camera on a helicopter, and the whole hill was warm biggrin

V6

3,781 posts

250 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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M3CHA-MONK3Y said:
I heard that caught once is a caution, twice a fine and three times arrested.
Only resin or solid is usually mixed and it's true, the strength has dropped quite a bit over the years. Weed on the other hand has got a lot stronger. It's stupid really, they want it made a higher class because they think it causes psychosis or something, but can't prove it without research. They've been saying this for years and yet still no long term research has been done.

Legalise and regulate, it's the only way to be sure. Cannabis law is a joke anyway, noone takes it seriously.
You obviously haven't smoked in the past 2 years - weed is now laced with many things to add weight, it's not just solid. sugar, silicone, lots of horrible sh!t. good weed is stronger, but most is not.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Its a total load of bks, the lot of it, its not going to stop anyone, including me, just means the police will have to waste their time dealing with giggly stoners rather than arresting real criminals.


hairykrishna

14,494 posts

232 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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V6 said:
You obviously haven't smoked in the past 2 years - weed is now laced with many things to add weight, it's not just solid. sugar, silicone, lots of horrible sh!t. good weed is stronger, but most is not.
This was mentioned on one of the earlier threads and I still havn't seen it although I've been looking carefully. My experience is that weed these days tends to be sold by the bag not by weight anyway.

I think the truth is that on average weed is probably stronger than it was 10 years ago just because UK grown skunk has largely replaced low grade Moroccan hash. Judging by the nasty st that was in 'soap bar' it's probably a net health benefit. I'd say it's actually harder to find very high grade skunk these days; 10 years ago if you found skunk it tended to be very high grade.

collateral

7,238 posts

247 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Even if it is stronger, why does that matter? Just means you don't have to smoke as much to get the same high - benefit!

Aside from measure sizes there aren't restrictions on 'hard' alcohol vs beer, so their argument fails again. I could pour myself a pint of whiskey and neck it just as easily as a beer if I had the cash...

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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I love the fact that ALL of the advisors said it wasn't needed.

But the government obviously know better than the medical and criminal professionals.

collateral

7,238 posts

247 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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elster said:
I love the fact that ALL of the advisors said it wasn't needed.

But the Daily Mail obviously know better than the medical and criminal professionals.
EFA