What does this poor bloke need to do
What does this poor bloke need to do
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Adrian W

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15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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I looked and cant find anything about this on here

Heard about this on the radio this morning, something is seriously wrong with these people and the the goverment etc for allowing it to happen.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1129143/So...

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.

Why don't the parents sell up and move somewhere where this can be done?

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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You couldn't just have anyone building low cost homes for the disabled in areas where young people can't afford to buy. What would the government take any credit for then?

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Whilst this case is particularly upsetting, I can understand the mongs at the council not allowing planning permission due to his injuries. You'd get rogue developers lopping off limbs left, right and centre as an aid to appeals, it would get messy.

Toni896

2,188 posts

255 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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JagLover said:
I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.

Why don't the parents sell up and move somewhere where this can be done?
Both legs ...

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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JagLover said:
I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.

Why don't the parents sell up and move somewhere where this can be done?
Jaglover you're a heartless dick aren't you. The council have discretionary powers, why not let him build his bungalow ?





Edited by scorp on Wednesday 28th January 11:13

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Joined up thinking from the council.

No sir, we cant allow you to stand on your own two feet (sorry) by allowing you to build a home on your parents land where they will care for you.

We'd rather keep you in a rehabilitation centre on public money.

Defend your country overseas, come home and get fked by it.

Ace.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Would building the bungalow set some kind of precedent?

Adrian W

Original Poster:

15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Toni896 said:
JagLover said:
I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.

Why don't the parents sell up and move somewhere where this can be done?
Both legs ...
From what i heard on the radio, it is :- Both legs, his bum and his lower back.

I don't want to start a dibate about if he is a hero or not, but he received these injuries trying to defend our rights, and we (local council) should give him some slack.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Given some of the monstrosities that get passed these days, I'd say they've been unlucky.

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
From what i heard on the radio, it is :- Both legs, his bum and his lower back.
He lost his bum?

Edited by AJS- on Wednesday 28th January 11:19

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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I'm sorry, but if you think bureaucracy is more important to uphold than human compassion in an exceptional circumstance then you at least deserve to be insulted. Explain to me what is the upside of denying this guy his planning permission?




Adrian W

Original Poster:

15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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AJS- said:
Adrian W said:
From what i heard on the radio, it is :- Both legs, his bum and his lower back.

I don't want to start a dibate about if he is a hero or not, but he received these injuries trying to defend our rights, and we (local council) should give him some slack.
He lost his bum?
Yep

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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scorp said:
anonymous said:
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I'm sorry, but if you think bureaucracy is more important to uphold than human compassion in an exceptional circumstance then you at least deserve to be insulted. Explain to me what is the upside of denying this guy his planning permission?
Maybe its not about the upside of not allowing this guy to do it, maybe its about the downside of allowing it. I'll ask again, will it set a precedent that can be used in future cases?

Waynester

6,514 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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To many pencil pushes with far to much power! Give them a rifle and see how they get on!

There has to be a solution that would help this chap. Such a young life to have this happen.

So sad that since the great war not much has changed.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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scotal said:
Would building the bungalow set some kind of precedent?
article said:
But the council disagreed. Joe’s bungalow would be ‘intrusive’, planners said. And anyway, his case was not exceptional enough for them to waive strict laws and allow the bungalow to be built.

They narrowly ruled against the plans, even though there had been no objections – and despite a direct appeal from Joe, who was desperate to live near his family, in Pevensey, East Sussex
It is discretionary.

JagLover

46,734 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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scorp said:
JagLover said:
I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.

Why don't the parents sell up and move somewhere where this can be done?
Jaglover you're a heartless dick aren't you. The council have discretionary powers, why not let him build his bungalow ?
If you want to argue that the compensation received from the government for his injuries is insufficient I might well agree with you. However planning permission should not be granted on this basis, but on what is a suitable use for the land, bearing in mind local planning priorities.

This is a typical Daily Mail article IMO, emotive rubbish.

Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 28th January 11:22

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
he received these injuries trying to defend our rights,
Did he? I'm not denying the extent of his injuries, but I'd like to know how he was defending our rights.

Aiten

540 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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JagLover said:
I'm sorry but losing a leg does not entitle you to override planning laws.
I'm with him here. What is the benefit of being a council members if everyone gets the same 'special' considerations as them? hehe

Edited by Aiten on Wednesday 28th January 11:23

Adrian W

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257 months