OK so i've taken the plunge on RBS shares - what now?
OK so i've taken the plunge on RBS shares - what now?
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BigBazza

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2,135 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Sorry if this should have been tagged on to the other RBS share thread but i'm after specific advice.

I'm totally new to the share game so have used Barclays as a broker as I knew I could trust them (Well, at least I could trust them a bit!)

I've bought £5000 worth but don't want to leave it in long term. As it stands at the moment i've made about £900 over 24hrs.

How do I play it if I want to cream that £900 off the top and leave the rest in to see what happens? Do I just sell 5000 shares and bank that value or do I sell ALL the shares then buy back in or what?

I would appreciate any advice from the guys on here who know their onions.

Thanks

BB

evo801

243 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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As a beginner I would sell all and buy back.

That way you can scope out the market and decrease risk

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

261 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Go long on the Nikkei.

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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You could sell them all and buy back in (will get two transaction fee's for this) or sell £900 worth, thus leaving in £5k (at the price you are doing your maths).

This would incur just one transaction fee but you'd still need to do the paperwork with the share certificate (if you have the physical certificate).

I'm not a Financial Adviser, but that's what I would do if I wanted £900 out of it.

All shares are a gamble at the mo so I hope you're playing with money you can afford to lose. A mate got in to RBS a couple of weeks back when they were "an absolute bargain" and has lost £8k so far.

Adrian W

15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Should have given me the five grand I could have pissed it up the wall for you instead.

Digga

48,026 posts

312 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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MaxAndRuby said:
Go long on the Nikkei.
Ha ha ha ha!

Oh wait, I've being paying into a Japanese investing ISA since the mid 90's. Every year I've thought "it's the Jpas, they're a really clever, inventive and industrious nation, the economy will pull through".... tumbleweed

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Adrian W said:
Should have given me the five grand I could have pissed it up the wall for you instead.
Probably the most accurate advice you'll get on this entire thread.

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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As a beginner, youre doing very well!!

Well done for having the balls to get involved! smile

btw, I dont trade at all so only voicing my opinion.

Hoppy

dirty boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Bought Barclays and Lloyds this morning, sold an hour later.

Materialise your profit of £900.

You've then still got your £5k.

See if you can turn the £900 into the £5k (that's the tricky part)

All of my trading came from one initial freak trade, where I purchased some shares that doubled overnight. I then sold, got my initial stake back, and trade the rest. 5 years on, i'm not doing too bad IMO.

BigBazza

Original Poster:

2,135 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Thanks for the wide ranging advice so far, I tend to agree with all of it!!

I can afford to lose £5k but i'd be mighty fed up if I did.

I'll cream it off the top every time it makes that sort of ballpark figure then if it does drop i've halved my losses I suppose.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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To be honest if you have to come on here to ask that question, you should just sell them all and keep your profits.

BigBazza

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276 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Neil_H said:
To be honest if you have to come on here to ask that question, you should just sell them all and keep your profits.
Well I didn't know where else there would be a load of people with good knowledge of the subject matter that could anonamously give advice.

ERRRRR that's why I asked...........

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Neil_H said:
To be honest if you have to come on here to ask that question, you should just sell them all and keep your profits.
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quotemehappy

307 posts

216 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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If RBS need another lifeline from the government then your shares could become worthless overnight, but £900 profit isnt bad going, perhaps you can reinvest the profits when you sell into other shares, dsg seem a decent punt as do Lloyds.

BigBazza

Original Poster:

2,135 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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I've just banked £1049 and my stock is still worth just under £5k so that worked ok for a first ever deal.

You can obviously appreciate I am nervous but very grateful for the advice.

Thanks

BB

Maxf

8,443 posts

270 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Personally I'd sell everything, put the 5k back into your savings and play with the £900. With a bit of good fortune you could turn that into something more meaningful, while leaving your original capital intact if it doesnt work out.

Well done though!

BigBazza

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Wednesday 28th January 2009
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quotemehappy said:
If RBS need another lifeline from the government then your shares could become worthless overnight, but £900 profit isnt bad going, perhaps you can reinvest the profits when you sell into other shares, dsg seem a decent punt as do Lloyds.
I'm hoping to make the same each day for a few days and then buy a Westfield i've had my eye on!

Not really into long term investments, I've got pensions and ISA's with people doing all that for me.

215cu

2,956 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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dirty boy said:
Bought Barclays and Lloyds this morning, sold an hour later.

Materialise your profit of £900.

You've then still got your £5k.

See if you can turn the £900 into the £5k (that's the tricky part)

All of my trading came from one initial freak trade, where I purchased some shares that doubled overnight. I then sold, got my initial stake back, and trade the rest. 5 years on, i'm not doing too bad IMO.
yes

Went in at the end of last week as Lloyds and Barclays got a hammering as the sentiment was completely nuts and pitched in with £7,000 of savings. Came good and I caught the lovely 70% upswing.

Remembering "never look a gift horse in the mouth" so pulled the £7000 out which is now safe and using the gains to trade with. Looking at holding them in the short term as I think barring a meteor strike, the very worst is over for banking and they are looking grossly under-valued.

With shares, unless you really are Gordon Gecko greedy bd offspring, you will lose out eventually.

If you lose, you haven't lost your initial investment.

It's still far too volatile to put all your cash in one place, you are up, take your initial investment.

If you really don't need it the cash to hand now, seek IFA. My advice is not IFA but I'm looking at some bonds, Child Trust for the nipper and also a deposit to invest in another Fidelity corporate fund.

2something

2,145 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Generally you should look to add to winning trades. But with just one share that's extremely risky.

At the very least you might want to think about moving some of your risk into Lloyds and Barclays to spread it across the banks.

But the bottom line is if you're not happy losing the 5k, then sell them all out and go to the pub !!

emicen

9,229 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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TBH, if it was me, I'd leave £900 in RBS shares and get the rest out.

I bought in to them last week purely as a punt (wont lie, I have nowhere near your level of cash to play with, but I figured I could pallet losing £50). I bought them for a long termer, money I could afford to lose but that could turn in to a really nice holiday in 5yrs if the markets recover. (Queue Mr Watson with a comment along the lines of "do you really think they'll have recovered to 2007/2008 levels in 5yrs, what makes you think so..." hehe)

Bought in to Lloyds when they were at 38ish because they seemed a more sound long term investment with a deflated price due to market sentiment driven by fear of what ailments HBOS may be hiding.