Sump engine oil suction
Sump engine oil suction
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Sheppard000

Original Poster:

85 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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I am after feedback on this suction tool, by Draper. I have two vehicles in our household, one of which is an automatic and the other is a manual. Instead of buying various sump plug tools of different sizes and torx bits for gearbox draining etc. I would assume it may be cheaper to buy this and reduce time constraints on myself, plus costs?

Opinions please.

Here is the current link.

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/12v-Oil-Extraction-Ki...

tr7v8

7,519 posts

249 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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I've got the Pela football shaped manual one. Very useful, bought for the boat as you can't get anywhere near the sump plug.
Also been used to removing water & fuel from fuel tanks & other tasks. Be warned it's slow to lift oil up a dipstick.

eliot

11,986 posts

275 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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6L vacuum extractor from ebay does the job for me.


Handy for getting oil out of most things such as diffs and auto-boxes.

Sheppard000

Original Poster:

85 posts

230 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Thank you for the picture, very informative, can the pump in your picture remove hot engine oil, or pump when cold?

Thanks again.

stevieturbo

17,922 posts

268 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Sheppard000 said:
Thank you for the picture, very informative, can the pump in your picture remove hot engine oil, or pump when cold?

Thanks again.
cold oil being thick, will be very difficult to suck through such a small diameter tube as is required with a dipstick type removal.

wildoliver

9,200 posts

237 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Do be aware there are negatives to these methods.

When you drain the oil using the sump plug you drain out all the oil, including any crud from the bottom of the sump, it also makes it quite easy to see any worrying swarf/metallic additions to the oil.

If you use a pump you will remove most of the oil but not all of it and chances are will leave some crud behind. It is also generally quicker to drop underneath most cars and drop the oil out properly than using a pump, there are a few exceptions, however IMO for the extra time to do the job right it isn't worth messing with a pump (which you have to buy anyway) the exception to this is the chap with the boat, in his case obviously the pump is the only way forwards. Another negative is if you ever do want to remove the sump plug it isn't unknown for them to seize in through lack of use.

I would buy the tools (you can actually buy kits with them all in they aren't expensive) and do it right.

eliot

11,986 posts

275 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Its better if its hot, but it comes out ok even when cold. Whilst its drawing the oil out I change the filter over then 10 mins later I'm filling it with fresh oil and back indoors within 15 mins for a cuppa.
Yes draining from the sump is better - but in this case, the oil gets changed on time every time because its so quick and easy.

Plus I'm not entirely convinced any sludge in the bottom comes out the drain plug anyway - the last sump I cleaned out was the consistency of paste.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

276 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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wildoliver said:
Do be aware there are negatives to these methods.

When you drain the oil using the sump plug you drain out all the oil, including any crud from the bottom of the sump, it also makes it quite easy to see any worrying swarf/metallic additions to the oil.

If you use a pump you will remove most of the oil but not all of it and chances are will leave some crud behind.
If the oil is changed frequently enough, there won't be any crud to be left behind.

Sheppard000

Original Poster:

85 posts

230 months

Saturday 4th April 2009
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Bought one, nice bit of kit. Thanks for the advice

That Daddy

19,286 posts

242 months

Sunday 5th April 2009
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Mr2Mike said:
wildoliver said:
Do be aware there are negatives to these methods.

When you drain the oil using the sump plug you drain out all the oil, including any crud from the bottom of the sump, it also makes it quite easy to see any worrying swarf/metallic additions to the oil.

If you use a pump you will remove most of the oil but not all of it and chances are will leave some crud behind.
If the oil is changed frequently enough, there won't be any crud to be left behind.
Exactly,and most sump plugs are not positoned to allow all the oil to be drained anyways,certain Renaults and Volvos do from memory though,the suction method goes right to the base of the sump usually,its alway worth checking the sump plug is secure even using the suction method.