mondeo running problem
mondeo running problem
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bone

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27 posts

225 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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hi,can anyone help! just bought a mondeo 2001 2ltr petrol the car holds back cuts out under load, only way to keep it running is a very light throttle only fault code is lambda circuit has had new sensors fuel pump and ecu check sometimes it is fine anyone else had a problem? any help would be great,thanx.

bone

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27 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Zad

12,970 posts

262 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Maybe the air mass meter could be defective. I would have expected a faulty lambda or throttle sensor to have shown up under interrogation.

bone

Original Poster:

27 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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thanx, but been told its only got m a p sensor strange that theres no codes!

Zad

12,970 posts

262 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Just a "for what it's worth".

Whilst waiting for my MoT, the garage manager was talking to another customer about reading error codes. It seems that air flow meters and temperature sensors rarely, if ever, give logged errors. Maybe this was just one particular model (not sure what) but his logic was sound. Basically, because both the AFM and temp sensor have a naturally wide range, it was difficult to to detect anything out of the ordinary.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

257 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Zad said:
Just a "for what it's worth".

Whilst waiting for my MoT, the garage manager was talking to another customer about reading error codes. It seems that air flow meters and temperature sensors rarely, if ever, give logged errors. Maybe this was just one particular model (not sure what) but his logic was sound. Basically, because both the AFM and temp sensor have a naturally wide range, it was difficult to to detect anything out of the ordinary.
Problems with current vehichles can't always be determind by pulling codes, it sometimes takes a tech who knows how to read PIDs (parameter idenification data) and/ or freeze frame data. Codes rarely get you to the root of the issue.

Sometimes air and temp sensors are easy to call the fault because they have built in defaults, if you moniter the ECT_ PID with a cold engine, then drive the vehicle for 20 miles and it never moves from -40F, you can be sure there is a problem with the sensor or it's electrical circuit.


Trooper2

6,676 posts

257 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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bone said:
hi,can anyone help! just bought a mondeo 2001 2ltr petrol the car holds back cuts out under load, only way to keep it running is a very light throttle only fault code is lambda circuit has had new sensors fuel pump and ecu check sometimes it is fine anyone else had a problem? any help would be great,thanx.
Sounds like your issue may be with the throttle body or throttle position sensor to me, but I'm just a lowly Ford mechanic...redface

If you aren't getting any pertinent codes it could be a base engine problem as well, have someone with Ford IDS or equivalent run a power balance and compression test, head gasket blown? if you keep getting O2 (lambda sensor) codes check for exhaust leaks, before or between the sensors. A partially blown head gasket letting coolant into the exhaust will kill lambda sensors right quick.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

230 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Just out of interest, is the fuel cap the original one?

bone

Original Poster:

27 posts

225 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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thanx for the comments i have been able to narrow it down some by testing fuel rail pressure it drops off when it faulters!

raceline

13 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2009
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I've just picked up a 2.0l mondeo with exactly the same symptoms. Did you have any luck resolving this? I suspect low fuel pressure but it could be any number of things. Any help much appreciated.