Saab or TVR for the snow?
Saab or TVR for the snow?
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jubileejim

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153 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Hi All

Dilema... Do I drive a Saab with 2.5 mm of tread to work in the snow or the chimaera with close to 4mm? or neither?

tj

Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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TVR every time, we had a Griff and a 9000, the SAAB was crap

jubileejim

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240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Is it a case of easy on the right boot and no harsh breaking/steering.

BGB autosport

1,044 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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TVR, you might be supprised, just go steady

Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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jubileejim said:
Is it a case of easy on the right boot and no harsh breaking/steering.
of course, try to plan ahead and use the torque.....not having ABS helps too

jubileejim

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153 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Why does not having abs help?

page3

5,193 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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cool

jubileejim

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153 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Awe blinded by the snow cool. Luckily my chim is in the garage, its mr saab who being blinded.

x 7usc

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225 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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jubileejim said:
Why does not having abs help?
if you find the need to stop quickly in the snow, locking up the wheels will stop you far sooner than juddering along on the abs

jubileejim

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Monday 2nd February 2009
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i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.

Apache

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314 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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jubileejim said:
i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.
Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow

Monkeylegend

29,269 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Apache said:
jubileejim said:
i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.
Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow
ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.

Cuchillo

687 posts

295 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Mine smiled at me at around 6 this morning!


leorest

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269 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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x 7usc said:
jubileejim said:
Why does not having abs help?
if you find the need to stop quickly in the snow, locking up the wheels will stop you far sooner than juddering along on the abs
I thought abs had a minimum operating speed which you are unlikely to reach on snow/ice?

WorAl

10,877 posts

218 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Monkeylegend said:
Apache said:
jubileejim said:
i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.
Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow
ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.
have you ever jammed the abs brakes on in the snow before, the car will just slide, they lock intastantly as the system thinks the car has stopped as there is no resistance to the wheels....NO ABS Everytime, i used to remove the ABS fuse on my subaru when heading out in snow, worked a treat.

Monkeylegend

29,269 posts

261 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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WorAl said:
Monkeylegend said:
Apache said:
jubileejim said:
i see, i always thought abs was designed to stop sliding by stopping progressively, where as ordinary breaks would slip on the road.
Thing is, with packed snow the wheels are about to break away constantly under braking so the ABS will cut in virtually all the time....it's supposed to sense a lock up before it happens which is not much use in the snow
ABS is also designed to allow you to steer when braking in slippery conditions. I would take it every time in the snow.
have you ever jammed the abs brakes on in the snow before, the car will just slide, they lock intastantly as the system thinks the car has stopped as there is no resistance to the wheels....NO ABS Everytime, i used to remove the ABS fuse on my subaru when heading out in snow, worked a treat.
Yep, several times on the way to Stansted at 03.00 in the snow this morning. Wouldn't want to be without it. Just my personal preferance.

jubileejim

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153 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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wow dunno what to do on the one hand i suppose the saab is worthless than the tiv so less of a risk. Mostly motorway though so should be salted and traffic going slow due to jacknifed lorry's

Apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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yes torque is your friend

grahamn

1,777 posts

264 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Take the Tiv, just done 85 miles from Bedford to Newbury in the Cerb this morning.

jubileejim

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153 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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thanks for the advice. I am going to brave it in the saab, being swedish the snow should be a breeze. Haven't driven rear wheeldrive in snow so think I should aviod trying it out today. Mable had an outing Saturday to Battle so she's not being neglected. Cheers all