First employment review
First employment review
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funkyrobot

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18,789 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Hello all.

Before I continue, this is in no way a bragg or anything like that about my job status, and I am not showing off. I know there are people who are losing their jobs at the moment and it isn't nice. I had a very bad few months last year so I sort of know what its like. I am posting, however, to get some advice.

I have my first employment review tomorrow for a job that I started 6 months ago. Apparently I am doing very well and far exceeding my employer's expectations of me. I was also promoted 3 months ago from the junior role to the full blown role. I still have tonnes to learn but am as enthusiastic now as the day I joined. I really like the job.

Now, how would the PH masses suggest I handle this review?

I require this review as my contract needs updating (I have served my 6 month probationary) and I want some clear goals that I should be aiming for for the next 6 months. I would also like to know what my manager considers to be my weaknesses and my strenghts.

I would like to ask about possible future training and would like to know where the company sees me in another 6 months time.

I am thinking along the lines of asking for some more money too (as mentioned above I was promoted within the role after 3 months) but am not sure whether to ask this or not?

I still have loads to learn and am developing my knowledge everyday. I wasn't too experienced in this role when I took it on but my education level helped me. I wonder if this would affect my request for more money?

So, does anybody on here think that I am rude in asking for more money? Or should I just stick to the training and development areas? This is the first review i've had for a decent role like this so any info will help.

Just to add: I have been implementing a rather large project over the last few weeks. It has made me nervous as hell but the feedback i'm receiving is good. I am also in work early every morning and do keep my contracted hours well. Basically, i've been trying really really hard since I started, and it seems to have been noticed! Which is nice.

Cheers all!

RDMcG

20,835 posts

236 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I think it depends on what they told you when you joined. Did they tell you there would be a raise after the propbationary period?

Also, are they in good financial shape.? If there is a wage freeze for example, I would bot push hard for money right away.


130R

7,079 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Asking about future training - good idea
Asking for more money - bad idea

dibblecorse

7,578 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Funky

I work within HR in one of the UK's few remaining growing companies and I'm glad to hear it is going well for you.

The advice i would give is to keep it all very objective, be prepared with some data about your achievements but make sure they are factual, also if you have enough time try and get some feedback from other people in the business, colleagues, stakeholders etc and ask them to provide some information on how they view your performance, ask for example three thins they feel you do well, and three things they feel you need to develop, explain you have your review coming up but if you use the feedback you must use both sides, not just the positive.

In regards the money, before going in try and discover if your company has annual salary reviews and when the are, if they are in the next few months, I'd wait and let it all happen then, if they don't then ask, but don't demand.

Sounds like you are taking all this seriously and thas a great thing as it makes it easier for both sides, if you want more specific advice then PM me for my number.

Good luck fella.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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presumably you got a rise when you got promoted so in effect you have simply done the job that they asked you to do, albeit very well by your account of things. why should they pay you more? are you totally indispensibleto the company? is there no one in the country with a similar skill set? if you really want something more, as the other person says, ask for more training, perhaps if they will pay for a relevant professional qualification? asking for cash straight up will probably undo all your good work over the past six months.

just go in, say thankyou a lot and smile.

plg101

4,106 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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Asking about how they see you could take on more responsibility step by step so that you can add "more value" to the business is the route to more money... take on the increased responsibility, do it well, make sure it is done quicker/cheaper/higher quality (choose 2 of these) by you and find a subtle way of making sure the right managers know about it.



mouk786

1,263 posts

226 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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I was in your position about 1 year ago.

I didn;t directly ask for mroe money but as they were offering me training which wasn't part of the deal when I started I was happy - it will eventually lead to more money.

Perhaps try and tie in the development with mroe cash? i.e if I pass X exams then I should get paid Y more... something like that.

funkyrobot

Original Poster:

18,789 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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pablo said:
presumably you got a rise when you got promoted so in effect you have simply done the job that they asked you to do, albeit very well by your account of things. why should they pay you more? are you totally indispensibleto the company? is there no one in the country with a similar skill set? if you really want something more, as the other person says, ask for more training, perhaps if they will pay for a relevant professional qualification? asking for cash straight up will probably undo all your good work over the past six months.

just go in, say thankyou a lot and smile.
Didn't get a rise when I was promoted which is fair enough as I had only been here 3 months then.

One of the main reasons for this review is to get the next 6 months mapped out, and to get my name on a permanent contract. My current one details the 6 month probationary.

I wasn't going to ask for cash straight up but my contract etc said everything would be reviewed after 6 months, inc salary.

I will be careful though, not going to just go in and talk about money.

Edited to add: They originally hired me instead of other more experienced and technically apt people because of my personality. And because they wanted someone to develop with the role I think.

Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 2nd February 16:07

funkyrobot

Original Poster:

18,789 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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dibblecorse said:
Funky

I work within HR in one of the UK's few remaining growing companies and I'm glad to hear it is going well for you.

The advice i would give is to keep it all very objective, be prepared with some data about your achievements but make sure they are factual, also if you have enough time try and get some feedback from other people in the business, colleagues, stakeholders etc and ask them to provide some information on how they view your performance, ask for example three thins they feel you do well, and three things they feel you need to develop, explain you have your review coming up but if you use the feedback you must use both sides, not just the positive.

In regards the money, before going in try and discover if your company has annual salary reviews and when the are, if they are in the next few months, I'd wait and let it all happen then, if they don't then ask, but don't demand.

Sounds like you are taking all this seriously and thas a great thing as it makes it easier for both sides, if you want more specific advice then PM me for my number.

Good luck fella.
Thanks for this Dibble, most useful.

The company I work for seems to be doing well and we are very very busy. This isn't a bad thing and consider myself very fortunate to be in this position. There is a lot of bad news floating around re jobs at the moment.

I shall find out about the annual salary reviews etc and I have already managed to get some feedback off certain people.

I'll have another think about this tonight and will be in touch with you if I need anything more.

Thanks again, most helpful!

funkyrobot

Original Poster:

18,789 posts

257 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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mouk786 said:
I was in your position about 1 year ago.

I didn;t directly ask for mroe money but as they were offering me training which wasn't part of the deal when I started I was happy - it will eventually lead to more money.

Perhaps try and tie in the development with mroe cash? i.e if I pass X exams then I should get paid Y more... something like that.
Thats similar to how I feel tomorrow will go. I hinted at money last week but didn't ask about it. It was sort of added towards the end of a conversation with my manager. I had to mention it because I am supposed to be having a review of 'everything' tomorrow. As I mentioned above, my role has changed already!

Thanks for the info.

dibblecorse

7,578 posts

221 months

Monday 2nd February 2009
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funkyrobot said:
Thanks for this Dibble, most useful.

The company I work for seems to be doing well and we are very very busy. This isn't a bad thing and consider myself very fortunate to be in this position. There is a lot of bad news floating around re jobs at the moment.

I shall find out about the annual salary reviews etc and I have already managed to get some feedback off certain people.

I'll have another think about this tonight and will be in touch with you if I need anything more.

Thanks again, most helpful!
No worries, what market you in ?? Nice to hear others are positive smile

funkyrobot

Original Poster:

18,789 posts

257 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2009
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dibblecorse said:
funkyrobot said:
Thanks for this Dibble, most useful.

The company I work for seems to be doing well and we are very very busy. This isn't a bad thing and consider myself very fortunate to be in this position. There is a lot of bad news floating around re jobs at the moment.

I shall find out about the annual salary reviews etc and I have already managed to get some feedback off certain people.

I'll have another think about this tonight and will be in touch with you if I need anything more.

Thanks again, most helpful!
No worries, what market you in ?? Nice to hear others are positive smile
I work in IT/IS, but the company is based around fresh veg and produce etc. smile