Light Upgrade
Light Upgrade
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FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I know its been done many times and I have looked at previous threads before you all bombard me.
My plan is to buy the brighter lights kit from Mod-Wise and replace the bulbs with 50% brighter ones. I don't want to change the original look of the car.
I have looked at the Autoexpress report on bulbs but how old is it? Surely, there are better units available today? If so, where can I get them?
Has anyone done this and was there any signifiucant improvement?
Is there any alternative other than the upgrade to Speed 6 style or the twin light conversion, none of which I like.
FFG

pete

1,634 posts

313 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I ran 100W bulbs with the standard wiring for a while, without melting anything. Only problem was that the voltage drop in the standard wiring caused the bulbs to run under-voltage (nearer 12V than 13.8V), and they consequently blew every 3 months or so

After upgrading the wiring, installing new relays, etc, I carried on running the 100W bulbs. The result was much brighter lights, but the bulbs still blew every 6 months, probably due to the massive heat build up.

Finally I'm running the "50% brighter" Philips 55W bulbs from powerbulbs.com. They're not visibly any dimmer than the conventional 100W bulbs, but have lasted over a year, and the light is a bit whiter.

After much faffing around, I'd definitely recommend the Modwise kit and brighter 55W bulbs. If the kit's anything like the Modwise remote boot opener it will be beautifully made and a doddle to fit.

Cheers,
Pete

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Thanks Pete.
I was going to order the boot kit at the same time as keep putting the key back in the ignition to open it is a pain in the ar*e and the back.
Paul

Edt

5,239 posts

313 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I have mod-wise wiring & am running 100w bog standard Halfords bulbs.. none blown yet (over 6 months)

Makes the lights a lot better but like everything you get used to it in 30 secs!

Ed

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I must have infra-red retinas - I think the standard lighting is OK!

(Now, where's me carrots...?)

joolzb

3,549 posts

278 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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simpo two said:
I must have infra-red retinas - I think the standard lighting is OK!

(Now, where's me carrots...?)

Have to agree on that one Simpo, I've not found them to be a problem in fact I've not really noticed.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Well I disagree. We've had our Griff 2 months now, and to be fair, either of our motorbikes has better headlights on dip beam. And thats one light as against 2 on the Griff. Main beams' fine, but two candles would give out more light on dip. Thats the problem.

maggit

joolzb

3,549 posts

278 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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mrmaggit said:
Well I disagree. We've had our Griff 2 months now, and to be fair, either of our motorbikes has better headlights on dip beam. And thats one light as against 2 on the Griff. Main beams' fine, but two candles would give out more light on dip. Thats the problem.

maggit

Maybe mine's already had the upgrade without me knowing . I'll take a look.

beano500

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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I had a Yammie R6 for a while and I am sure that the headlight used to blind people in the middle of the day - was always getting cars flash me and I am sure they weren't just flirting.

The Griff is truly like two "candles in the wind" - to misquote from Reg Dwight - that, combined with the ability and desire to travel at "progressive" velocity makes for an "exciting" journey in my my night-driving book!

Looking to do something this year, any ideas well welcome!

Signed
"Bugs Bunny on extra carrot ration"

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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The lights maybe OK if you are only using the car at weekends and during the daytime but ours is used by the bread knife as her only car. Some of you may have noticed it is getting dark now especially after around 15:30.
What are the bulb types - H1, H4 or H7, as I can't find anything other than the wattage in the Bible. We have a Griff 500 (1997).
I don't have the luxury of being able to take the bulb out and then wait for the replacement to arrive.
FFG

RichB

56,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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FlipFlopGriff said:
I don't have the luxury of being able to take the bulb out and then wait for the rreplacement to arrive. FFG
I assure you taking the bulbs out is never a luxury, even if you do have the time to wait for replacements Rich...

just trouble

700 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Hello fella's. I have got tinted lens covers on my Griff which doesn't exactly help the night time driving experience so I asked Peninsula to upgrade the head lamp and spotlight bulbs to the brighter Xenon type which cost about £32 for four.

pete

1,634 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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For a 1997 car, they're 55W H1 bulbs in the dipped beam units. I think (although I'm not sure) that they're also H1s in the main beam units.

Cheers,
Pete

RichB

56,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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They are indeed Pete. Same bulbs just aligned differently for dip and full. R...

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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So I need 2 for each side??

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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Sorry, 2 each side behind the pod and another one for the Cibie unit(i'm not replacing that one just the headlight (dipped)??

RichB

56,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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FFG - have you got standard lights? If so you need 4 identical H1 bulbs, I suggest Phillips Vision Plus). R...

FlipFlopGriff

Original Poster:

7,144 posts

276 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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I believe so. The main beam is fine so I assume I really only need to replace the dipped beam on each side, ie 2 bulbs in total as I will then have 2 spares for the main beams.
I've checked out powerbulbs.com and the H1's are £19.50 a pair.
I also want to replace the indicator (front and repeater) with clear lenses, as the car is pearl white, and came across the Philips Silver Vision (amber when lit and mirrored when off so you can't see the orange glow from the outside as with amber bulbs) on the powerbulbs site. They are £14.75 per pair. Are these a direct replacement for the front indicator bulbs?
FFG

RichB

56,259 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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FlipFlopGriff said:
I also want to replace the indicator (front and repeater) with clear lenses, as the car is pearl white, and came across the Philips Silver Vision (amber when lit and mirrored when off so you can't see the orange glow from the outside as with amber bulbs) on the powerbulbs site. They are £14.75 per pair. Are these a direct replacement for the front indicator bulbs?FFG
Iassume the bulbs are a standard fit for an indicator unit, however who is going to change the lenses for you? R...

IPAddis

2,524 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th October 2003
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FlipFlopGriff said:

I also want to replace the indicator (front and repeater) with clear lenses, as the car is pearl white, and came across the Philips Silver Vision (amber when lit and mirrored when off so you can't see the orange glow from the outside as with amber bulbs) on the powerbulbs site. They are £14.75 per pair. Are these a direct replacement for the front indicator bulbs?
FFG


Yes, been there, done that. You can also remove the amber filter on the rear lights (darkened lenses only) and have the same effect there.

Ian A.