Irresponsible walkers - Idiots
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_...
Really pisses me off when people do this. In good conditions that turn to bad, then fair enough. But it was already bad conditions with more on the way, so what do they do, go walking, d
heads deserve to perish.
The emergency services already have enough to do, selfish muppets.
Really pisses me off when people do this. In good conditions that turn to bad, then fair enough. But it was already bad conditions with more on the way, so what do they do, go walking, d
heads deserve to perish.The emergency services already have enough to do, selfish muppets.
bbc said:
found safe and well
To spend a night on the hills in these conditions meant that they knew what they were doing and had the correct kit to survive. Given the opportunity I would have joined them.As it is I'm heading off mountain biking this afternoon. To people who love outdoor pursuits this weathers great, its the only time during the winter you can go out without getting covered in mud.
SamHH said:
I don't understand what problem you have. They went walking. They took longer to return than someone anticipated (possibly wrongly, you don't know). They were OK.
I'm assuming the OP is annoyed that these people caused a Mountain Rescue, Police and RAF search by heading out into bad weather. Report doesn't say how experienced they were, what equipment they were carrying or what procedures they had followed though.Edited because I missed the op wishing death on them - lets what and see what happened ok. Good, well prepared people get into difficulties to you know
Edited by fadeaway on Thursday 5th February 11:47
Sounds like 2 well-prepared walkers spent an unexpected night in the hills - possibly the only extra action they should have taken was to contact friends to say "we're ok, will sit the night out here, don't send out the rescuers" but maybe they had no mobile signal.
Irresponsible would have been to go out WITHOUT the correct gear.
I suspect the OP was one of those getting all worked up about the washed-out OMM this summer too...
I don't recall any of those participants (that included mountain rescue team members) worrying about the bad conditions, only those not taking part.
Irresponsible would have been to go out WITHOUT the correct gear.
I suspect the OP was one of those getting all worked up about the washed-out OMM this summer too...
I don't recall any of those participants (that included mountain rescue team members) worrying about the bad conditions, only those not taking part.My point is. Hardly the most sensible area to go walking in when there is already heavy snow warnings is it with more forcast at this point in time when the emergency services are already over loaded.
They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
zippy500 said:
My point is. Hardly the most sensible area to go walking in when there is already heavy snow warnings is it with more forcast at this point in time when the emergency services are already over loaded.
They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
So people who like winter mountaineering shouldn't do it? Be careful advocating restrictions on freedom to do an activity because YOU don't like it or wouldn't do it. At some point it might be something you do like doing...They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
The article says they were found safe and well - suggests to me they had the right kit with them and didn't need any help. It also says they were reported missing - not that they called out the MR teams so the walkers didn't ask for help, but friends or family did (understandably).
Edited by ewenm on Thursday 5th February 12:12
zippy500 said:
My point is. Hardly the most sensible area to go walking in when there is already heavy snow warnings is it with more forcast at this point in time when the emergency services are already over loaded.
Why wasn't it sensible? Apparently the weather gets quite bad in Antarctica; maybe you ought to wish death on the people who go there.zippy500 said:
They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
How do you know they needed assistance? Emergency services are often tasked to people who don't need assistance.zippy500 said:
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
I think if you wish death upon people based on massive assumptions about what they are doing, you ought to expect that people will be critical.SamHH said:
I don't understand what problem you have. They went walking. They took longer to return than someone anticipated (possibly wrongly, you don't know). They were OK after costing the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds and potentially placing the rescue services in danger unnecessarily whilst searching for them.
- EFA
zippy500 said:
It does not say if they were well prepared or not I admit. But as usual the PH massive jumps down anyone's throat who view differs from their own.
No, it seems that someone has posted something with very little detail and made a judgement. Although I agree with the use of the word 'usual'. Plus, you're the one that offered the view in the first place, what did you expect?Edited by hondafanatic on Thursday 5th February 12:13
rhinochopig said:
The MR team probably enjoyed it anyway. A ride in a Helo and a play in the snow.
Probably not that much. Too often ends badly....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7871787...
BigLepton said:
SamHH said:
I don't understand what problem you have. They went walking. They took longer to return than someone anticipated (possibly wrongly, you don't know). They were OK after costing the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds and potentially placing the rescue services in danger unnecessarily whilst searching for them.
- EFA
BigLepton said:
SamHH said:
I don't understand what problem you have. They went walking. They took longer to return than someone anticipated (possibly wrongly, you don't know). They were OK after costing the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds and potentially placing the rescue services in danger unnecessarily whilst searching for them.
- EFA
In case you hadn't noticed, the mountain rescue are there to rescue people on mountains and, in my experience of friends who are members of teams, they absolutely love going on shouts.
BigLepton said:
SamHH said:
I don't understand what problem you have. They went walking. They took longer to return than someone anticipated (possibly wrongly, you don't know). They were OK after costing the taxpayer tens of thousands of pounds and potentially placing the rescue services in danger unnecessarily whilst searching for them.
- EFA
"They were reported missing", NOT "they called the emergency services".MR teams are charity funded.
zippy500 said:
They obviously were not prepared or they wouldnt have needed assistance.
Au contraire. The fact they survived suggests they were prepared. And where does the article say they needed help?How should people prepare for expeditions to the higher ranges and arctic if not to go out and push their limits when it's relatively safe?
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