VT, VZ, VS ??? CONFUSED . COM

[maxmc2]

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

[Bonnie and Clyde]

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

I believe its a HSV VZ but i may be wrong

[maxmc2]

Tnx Mel

[Magic919]

Those are models, rather than brands. They relate to different model years though, so our 05 5.7 and 05 6.0 are both VZ models. I'm sure Tim the poolman will explain all when he sees this...

Our 04 Monaro is a V2 series IIRC.

[hsv_rulz]

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

Simple answer.
2 model years were sold in UK by VX 04 and 05 (production was ended in 05)

UK 04 (big boot) CV8 = OZ 'V2/III' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 333BHP
UK 04 (big boot) VXR = OZ 'Y2' series HSV GTO 5.7 litre 384BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) CV8 = OZ 'VZ' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 354BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) VXR = OZ 'Z series' HSV GTO 6.0 litre 404BHP

and just to confuse things the Pontiac GTO sold in US is not the same as an OZ HSV GTO, as no HSV's were ever exported to US, they are LHD CV8's but specc'd diferently and had 6.0 litre engine.

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 18:39

[l4jor]

any idea about engine torque levels for 05 cv8s, I see different levels quoted for the same car depending which magazine or internet site you read. I think its 500NM which in old money seems to be anywhere from 340ft/lb to 369ft/lb? also horse power has been quoted as 345 to 354hp? ...I just gotsta know.......

[hsv_rulz]

l4jor said:

any idea about engine torque levels for 05 cv8s, I see different levels quoted for the same car depending which magazine or internet site you read. I think its 500NM which in old money seems to be anywhere from 340ft/lb to 369ft/lb? also horse power has been quoted as 345 to 354hp? ...I just gotsta know.......

Have a look here, might shed some light

www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_holden_vz_monaro.htm

www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_holden_v2_monaro.htm

For a bit of history of Monaro

www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_holden_monaro.htm

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 20:33

[l4jor]

Thanks HSV RULZ, lots of info, I love to read about these cars.

[maxmc2]

Thanks mate gr8 help there.

[the_ferret82]

hsv_rulz said:

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

Simple answer.
2 model years were sold in UK by VX 04 and 05 (production was ended in 05)

UK 04 (big boot) CV8 = OZ 'V2/III' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 333BHP
UK 04 (big boot) VXR = OZ 'Y2' series HSV GTO 5.7 litre 384BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) CV8 = OZ 'VZ' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 354BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) VXR = OZ 'Z series' HSV GTO 6.0 litre 404BHP

and just to confuse things the Pontiac GTO sold in US is not the same as an OZ HSV GTO, as no HSV's were ever exported to US, they are LHD CV8's but specc'd diferently and had 6.0 litre engine.

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 18:39

dont forget the 354BHP models with a big boot and no nostrils....

[Well_Fans]

the_ferret82 said:

hsv_rulz said:

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

Simple answer.
2 model years were sold in UK by VX 04 and 05 (production was ended in 05)

UK 04 (big boot) CV8 = OZ 'V2/III' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 333BHP
UK 04 (big boot) VXR = OZ 'Y2' series HSV GTO 5.7 litre 384BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) CV8 = OZ 'VZ' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 354BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) VXR = OZ 'Z series' HSV GTO 6.0 litre 404BHP

and just to confuse things the Pontiac GTO sold in US is not the same as an OZ HSV GTO, as no HSV's were ever exported to US, they are LHD CV8's but specc'd diferently and had 6.0 litre engine.

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 18:39

dont forget the 354BHP models with a big boot and no nostrils....

no such version in UK - the 4 sold over here by Vauxhall are all listed above

[Bonnie and Clyde]

the_ferret82 said:

hsv_rulz said:

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

Simple answer.
2 model years were sold in UK by VX 04 and 05 (production was ended in 05)

UK 04 (big boot) CV8 = OZ 'V2/III' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 333BHP
UK 04 (big boot) VXR = OZ 'Y2' series HSV GTO 5.7 litre 384BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) CV8 = OZ 'VZ' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 354BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) VXR = OZ 'Z series' HSV GTO 6.0 litre 404BHP

and just to confuse things the Pontiac GTO sold in US is not the same as an OZ HSV GTO, as no HSV's were ever exported to US, they are LHD CV8's but specc'd diferently and had 6.0 litre engine.

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 18:39

dont forget the 354BHP models with a big boot and no nostrils....

Thats the 04 VXR isnt it

[the_ferret82]

Bonnie and Clyde said:

the_ferret82 said:

hsv_rulz said:

maxmc2 said:

I notice in Oz there vehicles are branded differently, so stupid question, what is a Monaro VXR in Oz.

Cheers

Simple answer.
2 model years were sold in UK by VX 04 and 05 (production was ended in 05)

UK 04 (big boot) CV8 = OZ 'V2/III' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 333BHP
UK 04 (big boot) VXR = OZ 'Y2' series HSV GTO 5.7 litre 384BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) CV8 = OZ 'VZ' model Holden Monaro CV8 5.7 litre 354BHP
UK 05 (small boot and nostrils) VXR = OZ 'Z series' HSV GTO 6.0 litre 404BHP

and just to confuse things the Pontiac GTO sold in US is not the same as an OZ HSV GTO, as no HSV's were ever exported to US, they are LHD CV8's but specc'd diferently and had 6.0 litre engine.

Edited by hsv_rulz on Thursday 5th February 18:39

dont forget the 354BHP models with a big boot and no nostrils....

Thats the 04 VXR isnt it

nope...

[Well_Fans]

unless you like me bought your car from Arnold Clark as they tried to sell it to me as a 354bhp car despite it being an 04 plate....

[higgster5.7]

i thought 04 cv8s were vy monaros?

[V-Car]

Anorak on (for motomk)

Holdens have always used alphabetic letters for model designations.

The first such was FJ in 1953, but the very first Holden in 1948 was called the 48-215. Mostly now its called the FX.
FE = 1956
FC = 1958
FB = 1960
EK = 1961
EJ = 1962
EH = 1963
HD = 1965
HR = 1967
HK = 1968
HT = 1969
HG = 1970
HQ = 1971
HJ = 1974
HX = 1976
HZ = 1977
WB = 1980 - 85

The Commodore (Opel V-Car) started in 1978
VB = 1978
VC = 1980
VH = 1981
VK = 1984
VL = 1986
VN = 1988
VP = 1991
VR = 1993
VS = 1995
VT = 1997
VX = 2000
VY = 2002
VZ = 2004
VE = 2006

[stigmundfreud]

so the 2004 04 Monaro 5.7 big boot pretty bonnet is a VZ?

[Magic919]

stigmundfreud said:

so the 2004 04 Monaro 5.7 big boot pretty bonnet is a VZ?

Big boot != VZ.

[crisisjez]

Tim`s gunna wet himself when he see`s this thread

[motomk]

stigmundfreud said:

so the 2004 04 Monaro 5.7 big boot pretty bonnet is a VZ?

er no. A big boot is a V2 series III or equivalent to a VYII Commodore built from mid 2003 to mid 2004. So you can have a 2003 or 2004 Big boot and a 2004 or 2005 VZ (small boot)! They did start building VZ's in 2004 but none of the VZ Monaros had big boots. The VZ's also had the nostrils.
Your VXR cars are essentially a HSV GTO not a Pontiac GTO which as mentioned is a hybrid of both!
The V2 series III in Oz had LS1 245kw engines (Big Boot Monaro)
The V2 series III HSV GTO had LS1 285kw engines (Big Boot Monaro...your early VXR's)
The VZ Monaro had a LS1 260kw engine Electronic throttle as opposed to cable. (small boot)
The VZ HSV GTO had the LS2 297kw engine Electronic throttle as opposed to cable. (small boot)
If that is not right somebody will correct me!
As I have said before don't get me started on the SV8's they are really tricky...there were more or less 3 VZ versions!!
There was also the HSV GTS Coupe which was the 300kw Calloway engined variety but I think only one made it to the UK.

Up to VT series I (mid 1999) the V8 used was the Holden V8. From then on the LS1 and its derivatives were used.

Edited by motomk on Friday 6th February 07:35