RE: Could Bluebird Return to Coniston?
RE: Could Bluebird Return to Coniston?
Friday 6th February 2009

Could Bluebird Return to Coniston?

Restoration team wants to bring Bluebird back to Coniston Water


Bluebird undergoing restoration work
Bluebird undergoing restoration work
PHers are being invited to have their say in a public consultation to help get the Bluebird K7 hydroplane onto Coniston Water.

Between 1955 and 1964 the K7 was piloted to seven water speed records by legendary speed-freak Donald Campbell. But on the January 4 1967, it flipped over at over 300mph on the lake, destroying the hydroplane and tragically killing Campbell.

In March 2001 the wreckage of the K7 was recovered, along with Campbell's body later that year. Since then a team has been restoring the wrecked hydroplane, aiming to restore it to the state that it was in before the crash, using as much original material as possible.

Project director Bill Smith told PH: 'The K7 is one of the great engineering icons of the twentieth century, and it was given a second chance by Donald's daughter, Gina Campbell.She wanted us to return Bluebird to the state she was in a minute before her final run.'

The project should be completed in 2010 and it is hoped the boat will find its way to the Coniston village museum in the Lake District. But before then, the team want to bring the boat back to Coniston Water.

'It seems a shame that Donald Campbell is remembered for the one time it went wrong after such an illustrious career,' added Smith. 'We don't want a dead machine - there are too many dead machines in museums, we want to make a living exhibit.'

A local bylaw currently enforces a 10mph speed-limit at Coniston, with exception being taken only for world record attempts. But the team aims to test the boat to around 100mph, and don't want to disturb attempts at record week in November.

Smith understands the council's position: 'They have to be seen to be responsible, and not allow just anybody to come in and pollute the lake and disturb the wildlife. But the transparent way we are organised means that we can plan for these things ahead of time, and pre-empt any issues that might arise.'

The Bluebird Project team want to have a new bylaw created specifically for the K7 to allow it to test on Coniston Water, and the council is currently holding a public consultation on the matter. Smith wants PHers to help his team by visiting the webpage and filling out the survey.

'I'm a bit of a petrolhead myself, so I gravitate towards PistonHeads, and I visit the site regularly. I know the people there appreciate great engineering. As well as celebrating Campbell's achievements and giving people the opportunity to enjoy some national pride, it will also bring sustainability to a small village museum, and a world class attraction to an area reliant on tourism.'

He also noted that with the bylaw in place, the option would remain open for Bluebird to periodically return to the water, perhaps in annual or bi-annual demonstration runs.

'On a personal level, I didn't get to see her the first time around, and I know many others will feel the same, and want to see her running.'

To have your say, visit www.lake-district.gov.uk/bluebirdconsultation and take a look at the Bluebird Project website at www.bluebirdproject.com.

The video below shows some amazing footage of the Bluebird before and after the accident.

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pits

Original Poster:

6,704 posts

221 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Cool!!!! marvelous triump of British engineering, would love to see this restored, and of course being used, with a build thread somewhere

Norbury90

6,919 posts

237 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Article said:
Conistan
nono

Couldn't let you escape with that error!

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I don't think so!
Why not leave it as a great memory of Donald with the best of British?
What really would it prove by running it again?

David87M3

1,470 posts

265 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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LukeBird said:
I don't think so!
Why not leave it as a great memory of Donald with the best of British?
What really would it prove by running it again?
Maybe family and close friends think that thats what Donald would have wanted.
I hope they get this running but I fear some silly H&S type ruling may get in the way.
I can see were your comming from as well. I did read somwere that one reason they have done this is to stop seople finding the wrcek and selling parts/memorabelia on ebay and the likes.



Edited by David87M3 on Friday 6th February 13:48

theaxe

3,571 posts

253 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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LukeBird said:
I don't think so!
Why not leave it as a great memory of Donald with the best of British?
What really would it prove by running it again?
Ageed. I can't understand why they didn't just leave him in peace. By all means build and run a replica but why this?

dubbs

1,599 posts

315 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Greatest memory to the man? Think abotu what HE would want...

Most guys like him would want it running again.

By running it, it becomes not just a tribute to him but also hopefully inspire others. I for one am fed up with youngster looking to cr4p role models for their aspirations.

I'm sure this would encourage tourism to the area to help keep the area profitable during harder times and hopefully encourage a few in to engineering/motorsport/anything but watching Big Bruv and wanting to be the next "big thing"

Skyedriver

23,593 posts

313 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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As an older PHer, and coincidentally, originally from North Shields where I believe Mr Smith resides or resided and where Bluebird was taken at one time I understand,, I always believed that Mr Campbell and Bluebird should have been left in their watery grave at the bottom of Coniston. That said, hipocritically I suppose I have visited the grave in Coniston.
On a similar note, back in the 20's(?) a chap by the name of Parry Thomas crashed his car Babs and died during a speed record attempt on Pendine Sands and his wish was always that Babs be buried there. Of course many years late some individual decided it was his right to dig that up to.

NDT

1,767 posts

294 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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theaxe said:
LukeBird said:
I don't think so!
Why not leave it as a great memory of Donald with the best of British?
What really would it prove by running it again?
Ageed. I can't understand why they didn't just leave him in peace. By all means build and run a replica but why this?
Totally agree.
A restored wreck would be a bugger's muddle - no longer original, but not as robust as a replica.
Stick the old one in a museum and put a working replica next to it.

CypherP

4,456 posts

223 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I believe theyre doing a good thing. I wuold have thought anyone who dedicates their life in that capacity to achieving what he achieved, would like nothing more than to continue with what made them who they are, and i believe by building a replica, would detract from this engineering marvel. Survey completed! smile

Ex Boy Racer

1,167 posts

223 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Interesting to compare the times we live in.
Original record attempt, led by a true hero, driven by pluck, bravery and pride in being british.
Now... professional logo, website, pr machine, shallow use of the union flag that Campbell died for.
Progress???

Evocator

227 posts

275 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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The restoration of this has to be the right thing to do.

If they had left it at the bottom of the lake, anyone could have claimed the salvage and it would have ended up as scrap or being broken for parts on Ebay.

I say a lottery grant should be allocated to perform the restoration and maintain the heritage of what was a great period of British history.

Wasn't Thrust SSC broken for parts to pay the bills of the record attempt? - a very sad day indeed when we can't keep these machines for future generations.

HappyS3owner

15,855 posts

260 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Good work, surely the local gov. can sort out the slight legal issue for a piece of history.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

235 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I'm in two minds, on the one hand, I'm as proud of our british engineering heritage as the next man. On the other, he died in it. I'd rather it was left to the deep, or put on display as is, and a replica built. How much of it is useable? At what point does it become "breaking the original for parts to help make a replica"?

chevronb37

6,472 posts

217 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I used to spend a lot of time with the Wales family - Donald's sister Jean and her sons (and various pets) as she was a close personal friend of my grandfather. I think what happened to Bluebird should have been decided by the family, not by a fan.

I also believe my mother's godfather was involved in the exhumation of Babs, which I mentioned in my earlier post. I have since seen Babs on a number of ocassions and she brings a great deal of pleasure to a great many people, although see the unguarded chain which decapitated poor Parry Thomas still sends a shover down my spine.

Despite my personal relationship with the family albeit a few years ago) and long-held fascination for Donald and Sir Malcolm, I feel leaving the mighty boat in peace would have been in better taste. I would rather go and pay tribute, in my own way, at the lake as I have done. It would not be my preference to go and see the old thing looking like Trigger's broom, consisting almost entirely of new bits.

To answer a question posed earlier, I believe Thrust SSC is alive and well in the USA somewhere, although I am prepared to be corrected. I don't think Richard Noble would ever all it to be broken down for parts.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

240 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Skyedriver said:
As an older PHer..... I always believed that Mr Campbell and Bluebird should have been left in their watery grave at the bottom of Coniston.
Well I'm a youngster and I firmly believe the latter.
I'm amazed they ever recovered it (Bluebird and Donald) in all honesty... frown

Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Skyedriver said:
a chap by the name of Parry Thomas crashed his car Babs and died during a speed record attempt on Pendine Sands and his wish was always that Babs be buried there.
Actually, I think you'll find his wish would probably have been not to have had his head torn off... wink

I've never heard anyone suggest that Parry Thomas had expressed a wish that the car should be burried at Pendine in the event of a crash. What is your source for this information?

HappyS3owner

15,855 posts

260 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Article said:
and it was given a second chance by Donald's daughter, Gina Campbell.She wanted us to return Bluebird to the state she was in a minute before her final run.
Surely that is the important bit, the daugher agrees / wants this to happen, end of discussion if you ask me.

VPower

3,598 posts

225 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Seems a lot of you are saying "If your already dead stay that way"!
If your not dead yet then just lie down and die like a good Englishman should do these days!

SORRY but I think that he would have rebuilt Bluebird if he had survived AND run it again to grab that record!

I have huge sympathy for his family, as I do for all our lost heros.

But I was 10 when we watched that on TV, both my parents had lived throught the WW2 and my father had lost his father in WW1.

You NO-people have NO idea what he meant to the moral of Britain at the time.
My parents were truly emotionally affected by his death.

I say bring back a HERO and the best way to do that, is to do what he would have done had he had the chance.

What would HE have done ANSWER THAT?
Shall we forget him or live in his sprit?
Especially when we are again faced with hard times ahead.

PS- Some of you should hand in your pistons and move to MSN chat rooms!


Sam_68

9,939 posts

276 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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HappyS3owner said:
...the daugher agrees / wants this to happen, end of discussion if you ask me.
I would tend to agree. I think the 'controversy' comes from the fact that his widow, Tonia Bern, was very much against the wreck being raised, at least initially.

Exige77

6,523 posts

222 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Just as an aside, come home about 2 months ago and there was a bit of a comotion at our nearest neighbour who lives in a coverted barn. There had been a vehicle fire which had caught a small part of the barn alight.The fire had been put out and no one had been hurt.

Next week on the front page of the local paper it read "Historic barn saved by Gardener"

I open up the paper and find pictures of various Bluebird cars and boats. It seems they were built in my neighbours barn. Was apparently well known at the time but almost forgotten now.

Ex77