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Is it just me or do the Dove House and Tom Hartley Murci's seem like really good value at circa 80k each. I mean this is Gallardo money! I keep looking at them and can't see why they haven't sold. Does anyone have any info on them.... I mean have they been ex-P1 hire cars or have 8 owners each or been wrapped around a lamp post or something?
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Captain Cadillac said:
They're cheap because they aren't always as easy to sell as people would have you believe.
As the Murcielago is an Audi built car, it is looked upon by most Lamborghini fans as a "softer" option than the earlier proper Lambos like the Diablo & Countach, which will always hold their price and prove a good investment.I have driven a Murci and both Diablo & Countach, and it is the latter two that get my blood rushing. The Murci just feels like a fast Audi to me.
Just me ten bob worth!
I am not sure if a Murci buyer would be considering a Countach or even a Diablo as an alternative? The way I see it part of the problem is the manoeuvrability in town, as it is very wide and low, then as there are not many of them, you are prone to alot of attention which can be frustrating at times and parking becomes an issue. The worry of things going wrong on say a 6 year old Murci could be worrying to as there is no manufacturer warranty available.
Whilst their is an Audi influence it is not as apparent as in the G and sales have not been an issue on that model. So potential customers are either looking at the G which is more practical and some would say a better car in some areas, or paying more and going for the LP640 which was a vast improvement imo, bar front clearance.
Whilst their is an Audi influence it is not as apparent as in the G and sales have not been an issue on that model. So potential customers are either looking at the G which is more practical and some would say a better car in some areas, or paying more and going for the LP640 which was a vast improvement imo, bar front clearance.
Edited by Callughan on Saturday 7th February 12:12
Callughan said:
So potential customers are either looking at the G which is more practical and some would say a better car in some areas
Why would some people say that the G is a better car?I've been thinking about getting a Lambo for ages and I'm willing to spend circa 100k, but it needs to be through a dealer as I have a p/x that I need to get sorted out. Consequently, an earlier Murci or later Gallardo Spyder fit right in budget. My heart says 2003/2004 Murci with maybe 20k miles on it from an independent, whereas my head says ex demo 2008 Gallardo Spyder from Lambo main dealer with 3k miles on it.
I can't help but think that long-term the V12 Lambo's will always be the sought after models. I suppose you only need to look at the difference between Countach's and Jalpa's.
FactoryPilot said:
Callughan said:
So potential customers are either looking at the G which is more practical and some would say a better car in some areas
Why would some people say that the G is a better car?I've been thinking about getting a Lambo for ages and I'm willing to spend circa 100k, but it needs to be through a dealer as I have a p/x that I need to get sorted out. Consequently, an earlier Murci or later Gallardo Spyder fit right in budget. My heart says 2003/2004 Murci with maybe 20k miles on it from an independent, whereas my head says ex demo 2008 Gallardo Spyder from Lambo main dealer with 3k miles on it.
I can't help but think that long-term the V12 Lambo's will always be the sought after models. I suppose you only need to look at the difference between Countach's and Jalpa's.
teh older cars do get more attention. I drove to Statfford in my QV with Carlo in his lime green Murci. The general feedback from the waves and grins and pics form passing motorists was for the QV. It also has a better range due to 120L tanks and returned 15mpg whislt Carlo at the same legal speeds couldnt better 11mpg! Any murci is light years ahead on build quality and comfort handling and performance, but it should be! It's a new design whereas the QV's were designed in the 70's!
To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
paulqv said:
teh older cars do get more attention. I drove to Statfford in my QV with Carlo in his lime green Murci. The general feedback from the waves and grins and pics form passing motorists was for the QV. It also has a better range due to 120L tanks and returned 15mpg whislt Carlo at the same legal speeds couldnt better 11mpg! Any murci is light years ahead on build quality and comfort handling and performance, but it should be! It's a new design whereas the QV's were designed in the 70's!
To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
spot on .To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
No way is the Murcie anything like driving an Audi.
I drove the Murcie on track in 2003 and I've driven a lot of cars since, F430, 7 gt3 etc, those were more nimble and had other advantages, but I have to say driving the Murcie is an out of this world experience that's in a different league - perhaps what is called a "supercar" experience.
Ive also never heard of any major issues with Murcie reliability, though when things do go wrong they can be expensive.
There are advantages of having a smaller nimble Gallardo, but I've never driven one so I can't comment. If the G Spider is also amazing then you may well have to toss a coin!!
Either way, enjoy your decision! :-)
I drove the Murcie on track in 2003 and I've driven a lot of cars since, F430, 7 gt3 etc, those were more nimble and had other advantages, but I have to say driving the Murcie is an out of this world experience that's in a different league - perhaps what is called a "supercar" experience.
Ive also never heard of any major issues with Murcie reliability, though when things do go wrong they can be expensive.
There are advantages of having a smaller nimble Gallardo, but I've never driven one so I can't comment. If the G Spider is also amazing then you may well have to toss a coin!!
Either way, enjoy your decision! :-)
(IMHO)911owner said:
Captain Cadillac said:
They're cheap because they aren't always as easy to sell as people would have you believe.
As the Murcielago is an Audi built car, it is looked upon by most Lamborghini fans as a "softer" option than the earlier proper Lambos like the Diablo & Countach, which will always hold their price and prove a good investment.I have driven a Murci and both Diablo & Countach, and it is the latter two that get my blood rushing. The Murci just feels like a fast Audi to me.
Just me ten bob worth!
paulqv said:
teh older cars do get more attention. I drove to Statfford in my QV with Carlo in his lime green Murci. The general feedback from the waves and grins and pics form passing motorists was for the QV. It also has a better range due to 120L tanks and returned 15mpg whislt Carlo at the same legal speeds couldnt better 11mpg! Any murci is light years ahead on build quality and comfort handling and performance, but it should be! It's a new design whereas the QV's were designed in the 70's!
To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
A-Men Brother!!!To return to the OP question! Personaly, I would go for the older murci, save yourself the cash and depreciation of the newer and just get into the older none franchise specialists to look after it.
These cars are pretty bulletproof if driven regularily, properly and not jut called upon to perform miracles once in a blue moon!
The G is a smaller more practical car, bu it's more of an Audi ( others suggestion not mine) than a Murci will ever be!
IF you don't want attention, don't drive a Lambo!
I have driven the Diablo around town and would imagine a Murci can only be much easier. It will have done more of its depreciating than the Gallardo you're considering - IDK if that's a concern for you?
My personal choice between the two would be a 6L Diablo and some change!
Otherwise the Murci!A Murcielago drives like an Audi in the same way that a Hershey Bar is like a Chocolate Souffle. Sure, they both taste of chocolate....
A Murcielago is an absolute beast compared to a Gallardo, a real hairy chested, in your face true supercar. It's a bit brutal, it's big, it makes an amazing dound, and yes, a Gallardo is more nimble. But the Murcie is the modern day equivalent of the car I dreamed about when I was a child
And yes, park a Countach next to one and the bigger crowd will be around the Countach.
A Murcielago is an absolute beast compared to a Gallardo, a real hairy chested, in your face true supercar. It's a bit brutal, it's big, it makes an amazing dound, and yes, a Gallardo is more nimble. But the Murcie is the modern day equivalent of the car I dreamed about when I was a child
And yes, park a Countach next to one and the bigger crowd will be around the Countach.
Well this will just get back into the old "feel" debate.
They certainly don't drive like an early Diablo or a Countach!
You're either going to like the 'easy' driving experience or not, there is little of the way of in-between or common ground and neither 'camp' will ever understand the other's veiwpoint!
They certainly don't drive like an early Diablo or a Countach!
You're either going to like the 'easy' driving experience or not, there is little of the way of in-between or common ground and neither 'camp' will ever understand the other's veiwpoint!
Having owned a 1992 Diablo and now a 2002 Merci...
For me its a no brainer... MERCI all the way
I have driving the g round the track and found it very responsive but the smile factor has to be with the Merci and the Diablo (veryvery close second) and the Gallardo in 3rd place.
I love the way the Merci drives, the foul-wheel drive is brilliant and brake far superior tothat of the 92 Diablo which left you looking about 4 miles in front and never gave you the confidence to do top speed on the motorway, whereas the Merci feels spot on and completes theall round drivng experiance... oyes and it's more powerfull than the others
SirM
For me its a no brainer... MERCI all the way
I have driving the g round the track and found it very responsive but the smile factor has to be with the Merci and the Diablo (veryvery close second) and the Gallardo in 3rd place.
I love the way the Merci drives, the foul-wheel drive is brilliant and brake far superior tothat of the 92 Diablo which left you looking about 4 miles in front and never gave you the confidence to do top speed on the motorway, whereas the Merci feels spot on and completes theall round drivng experiance... oyes and it's more powerfull than the others
SirM
You guys are gonna get me in trouble.....
When I first started on my quest to get a Lambo, I was after something very, very modest as a bit of a toy/hobby. I thought Jarama/Espada/Jalpa maybe...... then after speaking to quite a few friends, I then thought, no sod it, it's got to be a Countach/Diablo as deep down I've always wanted one of these beast's. But then I haven't got a huge amount of time to spend tinkering with cars every weekend and I worried that I've always put these two bulls on a 'supercar' pedestal and you know what they say... never meet your hero's - you'll only be disappointed
So, I didn't do anything about it.
As I really don't like Ferrari's and everything that they stand for, this then pulled me towards a modern-day lambo such as a Murci or Gallardo. I must say that deep down in my heart of hearts, if I'm being honest with myself, I'd probably be deflated by a Gallardo. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are a fantastic car to own and live with, but (and I probably sound stupid) for me, they just don't strike me as a genuine hairy chested 'supercar' in the same way that an R8 or 911 isn't, or even a 430 for that matter.
Great! So now I'm even more confused... I confess that as far as looks go, it has to be a Countach or late Diablo 6VT. But, a Murci is probably the more sensible (and expensive) option. Then again, if I'm going to spend a big chunk on a Murci, would it be worth getting a few grand on finance and getting an LP640? There doesn't seem to be much point in having money in the bank at the moment anyway.
Oh, great..... where's my asprin
When I first started on my quest to get a Lambo, I was after something very, very modest as a bit of a toy/hobby. I thought Jarama/Espada/Jalpa maybe...... then after speaking to quite a few friends, I then thought, no sod it, it's got to be a Countach/Diablo as deep down I've always wanted one of these beast's. But then I haven't got a huge amount of time to spend tinkering with cars every weekend and I worried that I've always put these two bulls on a 'supercar' pedestal and you know what they say... never meet your hero's - you'll only be disappointed
So, I didn't do anything about it.As I really don't like Ferrari's and everything that they stand for, this then pulled me towards a modern-day lambo such as a Murci or Gallardo. I must say that deep down in my heart of hearts, if I'm being honest with myself, I'd probably be deflated by a Gallardo. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are a fantastic car to own and live with, but (and I probably sound stupid) for me, they just don't strike me as a genuine hairy chested 'supercar' in the same way that an R8 or 911 isn't, or even a 430 for that matter.
Great! So now I'm even more confused... I confess that as far as looks go, it has to be a Countach or late Diablo 6VT. But, a Murci is probably the more sensible (and expensive) option. Then again, if I'm going to spend a big chunk on a Murci, would it be worth getting a few grand on finance and getting an LP640? There doesn't seem to be much point in having money in the bank at the moment anyway.
Oh, great..... where's my asprin
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