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Well, after moving to London to be closer to a job that I enjoyed I've been given the boot today for the company "not haivng a role for me" hmm... Guess I should have looked at moving after my 6 months probation.
So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
Edited by AlecG on Friday 6th February 15:14
AlecG said:
Well, after moving to London to be closer to a job that I enjoyed I've been given the boot today for the company "not haivng a role for me" hmm... Guess I should have looked at moving after my 6 months probation.
So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
I did Product Design many years ago. It's a very fickle industry, with not a lot of jobs, and a real peaks and troughs WRT vacancies even in good times. So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
Edited by AlecG on Friday 6th February 15:14
I ended up specialising in Ergonomics as there were more and more jobs being created in this field - especially in the High Hazard Industry. However, you could end up working on anything that people operate, from cars to fighter jets to complex chemical and nuclear facilities. You'd need to go back and do a Masters though.
Salaries range from about £25-30k starting to whatever limits you set yourself if you're self employed.
rhinochopig said:
AlecG said:
Well, after moving to London to be closer to a job that I enjoyed I've been given the boot today for the company "not haivng a role for me" hmm... Guess I should have looked at moving after my 6 months probation.
So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
I did Product Design many years ago. It's a very fickle industry, with not a lot of jobs, and a real peaks and troughs WRT vacancies even in good times. So what next? I graduated with a 2:1 BSc in Product Design in 2007, and have since done various CAD roles, using solidworks, SPR, I_deas and Unigraphics, am competant in 3d studio max and photoshop... The first role I was at for 5 months until the company went bust, the second role I was at for 9 months but it was only temping, and now this... I also have a years work placement experience!
Do I carry on going down the Desinger/Design Engineer route or look at something else? I've always been interested in the Accountancy route, and been told I would be good at sales roles...
A bit scary being jobless with rent to pay in central London, but trying to keep a PMA
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
Edited by AlecG on Friday 6th February 15:14
I ended up specialising in Ergonomics as there were more and more jobs being created in this field - especially in the High Hazard Industry. However, you could end up working on anything that people operate, from cars to fighter jets to complex chemical and nuclear facilities. You'd need to go back and do a Masters though.
Salaries range from about £25-30k starting to whatever limits you set yourself if you're self employed.
Was thinking of looking at Graduate jobs again and temping in the meanwhile, but then again I can do a masters whilst temping to fund it and the rent!
What CAD packages are the ones to have skills in for the Design industry?
V8mate said:
AlecG said:
Lost my job.
ETA: I'll no doubt get a flaming but hey!
No-one likes to hear of genuine misfortune; best of luck and stick with the PMA
Had a few beers this evening courtesy of 99p pints at weatherspoons, and I think the job situation, although not ideal is a blessing in disguise, but a rather scary prospect!
Edited by AlecG on Friday 6th February 19:23
AlecG said:
What CAD packages are the ones to have skills in for the Design industry?
Solidworks certainly seems to be on the up and up. Pro/Engineer still has a few fans too. Surfacers like Alias are more important too. IME design companies tend to work in whatever product their clients are using, so having a range of packages under you belt is useful.Any specific areas you want to work in (automotive etc) and do you want to stay in London?
Frik said:
AlecG said:
What CAD packages are the ones to have skills in for the Design industry?
Solidworks certainly seems to be on the up and up. Pro/Engineer still has a few fans too. Surfacers like Alias are more important too. IME design companies tend to work in whatever product their clients are using, so having a range of packages under you belt is useful.Any specific areas you want to work in (automotive etc) and do you want to stay in London?
I'm pretty easy in the areas I'd like to work in, I did my work placement designing false limbs which I really enjoyed, worked in Manchester as a CAD monkey doing wall panels, and more recently have been a Biomedical Design Engineer... But I have a keen interest in all aspects of design, have a passion for cars, and always will have, as well as music, and pushbikes!
I would say I'm strongest at Solidworks, whcih is good news...
good luck mate!
i saw an article in design week recently urging students to get out of the product design area saying the lack of jobs is hitting hard.
I'm doing a BA Product Design (in my last year) and no one has started looking for jobs yet, despite the end of the year only bout 3/4 months aways. Hopefully there will be some recruitment at new designers in london!
i saw an article in design week recently urging students to get out of the product design area saying the lack of jobs is hitting hard.
I'm doing a BA Product Design (in my last year) and no one has started looking for jobs yet, despite the end of the year only bout 3/4 months aways. Hopefully there will be some recruitment at new designers in london!
Sorry to har you're out of work man, thats rough and i'm in the same situation myself.
just got made redundent from JLR, been in Automotive design for 2 1/2 years now.
I'm looking at Aerospace and military stuff as they have long enough lead times and government money to weather the storms better than Automotive and graphic design.
You have a good range of CAD systems under you belt but I would say try and get CATIA V5 on your CV, it's similar to SolidWorks but far more powerful and the Automotive/Aerospace standard. (if you want a copy I could forward you one).
Keep your chin up and keep looking but don't drop back down to graduate roles, that is just taking defeat and going back to square one, know that your are now an experienced proffesional.
just got made redundent from JLR, been in Automotive design for 2 1/2 years now.
I'm looking at Aerospace and military stuff as they have long enough lead times and government money to weather the storms better than Automotive and graphic design.
You have a good range of CAD systems under you belt but I would say try and get CATIA V5 on your CV, it's similar to SolidWorks but far more powerful and the Automotive/Aerospace standard. (if you want a copy I could forward you one).
Keep your chin up and keep looking but don't drop back down to graduate roles, that is just taking defeat and going back to square one, know that your are now an experienced proffesional.
t hits the fan.okgo said:
Why do people say you would be good at a sales role?
There are still sales jobs out there, and its a quick way to make some decent money if you are any good..?
Not really too sure - my brother (FP+A manager) reckons I have "the gift of the gab" and can talk to anyone, inherited from my dad who is a recently retired policeman! My mum who is a sales and service director thinks it's something I'd do really well at too.There are still sales jobs out there, and its a quick way to make some decent money if you are any good..?
The only experience I had was at PcWorld and Currys though, and I understand it's more about strategies etc than having the gift of the gab
Edited by AlecG on Saturday 7th February 11:20
okgo said:
Give it a go mate, there are a world of 10k basic sales jobs out there. The good thing is you are cheap to keep, and they only start paying you well when you start making them money, so a lot of the time they are the last to go..
Whilst I would never suggest that someone become picky about work when the chips are down, I can't believe that you are seriously suggesting that someone with a good degree and skilled (albeit short) work experience to date, should drop it all to become a non-technical salesman after only 24 hours of unemployment.I will look into that, thanks!
Trouble is earning that little would barely cover my rent!
I think the plan is to re-do my CV, make a few variations on it for roles that interest me, with a few covering letters to apply for jobs online, and monday go suited and booted to employmeny agencies
Trouble is earning that little would barely cover my rent!
I think the plan is to re-do my CV, make a few variations on it for roles that interest me, with a few covering letters to apply for jobs online, and monday go suited and booted to employmeny agencies
V8mate said:
okgo said:
Give it a go mate, there are a world of 10k basic sales jobs out there. The good thing is you are cheap to keep, and they only start paying you well when you start making them money, so a lot of the time they are the last to go..
Whilst I would never suggest that someone become picky about work when the chips are down, I can't believe that you are seriously suggesting that someone with a good degree and skilled (albeit short) work experience to date, should drop it all to become a non-technical salesman after only 24 hours of unemployment.Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff