Trying to find my old racing Mini (Circuit Racer)
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About 16 years ago I sold my old circuit racing mini which was originally a Mini Cooper 998. Registration was originally YPJ916H. The last time I saw her, she was sold to a guy in Portmouth who sprayed her Ripspeed Yellow, and intended to contest the BARDC Modified Saloon Car Championship. Apparently he then moved from Portsmouth up to the Midlands, taking the car with him.
She was a full steel shell with Group 4 arches, turreted rear end with coil over suspension and Speedex Rear Beam. When i sold her she was running on 7 x 13 Revolutions (Dry's) and Alley Cats (Wets). Engine was (At the time) really the best you could get (Richard Longman Built and Dyno'd Engine) : Metro A + Block, 1380cc with a Metro Challenge EN40B Steel Crank, Longman Rods, Omega 73.5mm pistons and a Full Race Longman Head, on a long steel inlet manifold with 45 DCOE, Kent 1.5 Roller Rockers. Transmission was a Cooper 1071 S Box, with Straight Cut Gears. Speedex Rear Beam with Coil over rear shock. I used to take lots of care of her, and when I sold her she really was in very nice condition and totally rust free.
ACSMC Championship Contender Stickers in the Rear Quarter Windows.
I'll get some pictures posted within the next couple of days
Any help greatly appreciated.
She was a full steel shell with Group 4 arches, turreted rear end with coil over suspension and Speedex Rear Beam. When i sold her she was running on 7 x 13 Revolutions (Dry's) and Alley Cats (Wets). Engine was (At the time) really the best you could get (Richard Longman Built and Dyno'd Engine) : Metro A + Block, 1380cc with a Metro Challenge EN40B Steel Crank, Longman Rods, Omega 73.5mm pistons and a Full Race Longman Head, on a long steel inlet manifold with 45 DCOE, Kent 1.5 Roller Rockers. Transmission was a Cooper 1071 S Box, with Straight Cut Gears. Speedex Rear Beam with Coil over rear shock. I used to take lots of care of her, and when I sold her she really was in very nice condition and totally rust free.
ACSMC Championship Contender Stickers in the Rear Quarter Windows.
I'll get some pictures posted within the next couple of days
Any help greatly appreciated.
Edited by Jim Green on Saturday 7th February 20:59
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
guru_1071 said:
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
How do you do a check on the DVLA website to find the information you have mentioned?? ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
guru_1071 said:
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
Yep..... She was Red with a White Roof, and until 1989 i'd been contesting the ACSMS Sprint & Hill Climb Championship for five years. In 1989 I put in the Speedex Rear Beam (Who were also my sponsors for two seasons) which made her ineligable for the ACSMS Modified Production Class, so I took her off the road and and turned her into a full circuit racer. I did a couple of rounds of the BARDC Modifed Saloon Car Rounds mainly at the Southern Circuits and got a couple of class wins. ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
In about 1995 I took a job overseas and had to sell the car quickly........never seen or heard of it since.
I'll try and get some picture of her up in the next couple of days.
Edited by Jim Green on Saturday 7th February 20:51
ginettajoe said:
guru_1071 said:
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
How do you do a check on the DVLA website to find the information you have mentioned?? ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/appl...
oldboyracer64 said:
ginettajoe said:
guru_1071 said:
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
How do you do a check on the DVLA website to find the information you have mentioned?? ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/appl...
a good game is to check the reg numbers of cars in the mini mags, especially of the owners claim they are cooper s's......
the dvla site is good, but again, doesnt always tell the truth, its fallable in that is the cars 'make' has been entered incorectly nothing will come up, for example i recently tried to look up a cooper s (a good one) that a mate had bought. it wouldnt come up under austin, austin morris, leyland, mini etc etc. when we looked into it its make had been entered as 'austinminicar'
again, its free and good, and if there is any doubt the dvla have always been very helpful, often its a case of asking them the right questions, and not getting nasty with them.
guru_1071 said:
oldboyracer64 said:
ginettajoe said:
guru_1071 said:
jim
ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
How do you do a check on the DVLA website to find the information you have mentioned?? ypj916h comes up as a red austin on the dvla site
it last tax disc ran out 01 / 02 / 89. so i guess its either tucked away in a garage, or more likley, has been broken for spares, a fate that does happen to racers, as, after a hard life, they are normally worth more as spares than as a complete car.
any pictures?
http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/appl...
a good game is to check the reg numbers of cars in the mini mags, especially of the owners claim they are cooper s's......
the dvla site is good, but again, doesnt always tell the truth, its fallable in that is the cars 'make' has been entered incorectly nothing will come up, for example i recently tried to look up a cooper s (a good one) that a mate had bought. it wouldnt come up under austin, austin morris, leyland, mini etc etc. when we looked into it its make had been entered as 'austinminicar'
again, its free and good, and if there is any doubt the dvla have always been very helpful, often its a case of asking them the right questions, and not getting nasty with them.
ginettajoe said:
phumy said:
Make sure they dont want to back-date it to when it first went off the road, might cost you a small fortune 
......... good point, I'm not sure about that one!!!you need to be very carefull, and to be honest, its not a subject that you should really discuss (unless of course the shell is a brand new heritage one, and your using the correct qouta of parts from the old vehicle (with all the invoices to show that!!) in public.
if you have a V5 (not a V5C) and the car hasnt been on the road since 2000 (i think) then there will be no need to SORN it as it hasnt been on the road since the SORN came into force. even when you get a V5C there will be no need. it will only need to be SORN'd if its put on the road again. if it isnt showing 'historic vehicle' you either have to pay for the tax (at a post office, then claim a refund) or got to your local DVLA office to get the book altered, though i think the car needs to be mot'd and what not to do that now.
if you want to simply 'use' the log book to get it mot'd and taxed to strip the number off (not that this is in any way legal, but its very common, and not just with minis, and if you do it you need to accept that your 'ringing' cars and, should the police catch you wont just slap your wrists) then you may get a shock, as the DVLA have wised up to the amount of people doing this, a mate of mine has just pulled the plates off a pair of classics (both the cars they should have been) and both of them had to be taken to the DVLA for inspections where they checked just about everything, gone have the old days of simply taking the paper work in.......(or as someone i know did, simply use another make of car to get an mot on the 'paperwork'....)
the other thing that 'may' catch you out is that when the V5C comes back it 'may' come back with the plate showing as non transferable, though this only normally happens if the V5 is lost as well (or if there is any doubt at the DVLA, often in those cases the plate will be stripped off and a 'age-related' one will be stuck on it as well.
if i where you i would simply send the V5 in and see what comes back, though if there is any doubt in your mind that the car exists in a lockup somewhere its probably not worth the risk - i know of at least two customers who have made this mistake..........one got sent down for six months for ringing, he made the mistake of attempting to claim the number back that just happened to belong to a very succesful european fia historic cooper s (value of the car was in excess of 50 grand), the wealthy owner was less than impressed!!!!!!!
i know the above makes it sound like im some low life number plate dealing log booking scummer, but its not the case, i need to be very au-fait with this as so many people spout all sorts of shizz at work about the legalities of reshelling minis, heritage shells etc etc.
also got a sad hobby interest in number plates.........
if you have a V5 (not a V5C) and the car hasnt been on the road since 2000 (i think) then there will be no need to SORN it as it hasnt been on the road since the SORN came into force. even when you get a V5C there will be no need. it will only need to be SORN'd if its put on the road again. if it isnt showing 'historic vehicle' you either have to pay for the tax (at a post office, then claim a refund) or got to your local DVLA office to get the book altered, though i think the car needs to be mot'd and what not to do that now.
if you want to simply 'use' the log book to get it mot'd and taxed to strip the number off (not that this is in any way legal, but its very common, and not just with minis, and if you do it you need to accept that your 'ringing' cars and, should the police catch you wont just slap your wrists) then you may get a shock, as the DVLA have wised up to the amount of people doing this, a mate of mine has just pulled the plates off a pair of classics (both the cars they should have been) and both of them had to be taken to the DVLA for inspections where they checked just about everything, gone have the old days of simply taking the paper work in.......(or as someone i know did, simply use another make of car to get an mot on the 'paperwork'....)
the other thing that 'may' catch you out is that when the V5C comes back it 'may' come back with the plate showing as non transferable, though this only normally happens if the V5 is lost as well (or if there is any doubt at the DVLA, often in those cases the plate will be stripped off and a 'age-related' one will be stuck on it as well.
if i where you i would simply send the V5 in and see what comes back, though if there is any doubt in your mind that the car exists in a lockup somewhere its probably not worth the risk - i know of at least two customers who have made this mistake..........one got sent down for six months for ringing, he made the mistake of attempting to claim the number back that just happened to belong to a very succesful european fia historic cooper s (value of the car was in excess of 50 grand), the wealthy owner was less than impressed!!!!!!!
i know the above makes it sound like im some low life number plate dealing log booking scummer, but its not the case, i need to be very au-fait with this as so many people spout all sorts of shizz at work about the legalities of reshelling minis, heritage shells etc etc.
also got a sad hobby interest in number plates.........
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