Tell me about this, would you say it was real?
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Rolex made loads of different variations of the Daytona, making it easy for the fakers to pass off 'special editions' etc.
However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
cyberface said:
Rolex made loads of different variations of the Daytona, making it easy for the fakers to pass off 'special editions' etc.
However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
I suddenly have the urge to claim I thought it was real However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
... but I don't think I would be beleived.
cyberface said:
Rolex made loads of different variations of the Daytona, making it easy for the fakers to pass off 'special editions' etc.
However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
How on earth do you know so much However the spot above is correct. Zenith-movement Daytonas had seconds at 9 but had narrower spacing of the subdials than the Valjoux 7750 (which is what all the replicas use). The Rolex-movement Daytonas moved the subsidiary seconds to 6, which meant the fakers had to add another bridge to shift the 7750 seconds round to 6-o-clock, which makes the watch noticeably thicker.
More notably, the VJ7750 has the chrono subdials in the same diametric plane as the centre hands. The Rolex-movement Daytona does not - the axes of the minute and hour totalisers are placed a millimetre or so above the diametric centre line of the watch. The fake shown above has the subdials in the same centre line, so it's a well-finished VJ7750 fake.
Of course both photos above could be fakes but I've just checked photos of my old watch (which I know to be genuine) and it also has the subdials slightly above the centre line. And the VJ7750-based Sinn I have has the subdials in a straight line, so I call 'fake' too.
It'd fool all but the watch geeks, mind you.
Quinny said:
I have a theory on this
The brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
That's true. I went to a wine tasting once and had a great time "learning" about the different wines. I learned so much that I forgot how to drive.The brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
Unapologetically stolen from Homer Simpson
Strangely Brown said:
Quinny said:
I have a theory on this
The brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
That's true. I went to a wine tasting once and had a great time "learning" about the different wines. I learned so much that I forgot how to drive.The brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
Unapologetically stolen from Homer Simpson
Quinny said:
I have a theory on this
The brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
Cyberface, knows loads of facts about watches. Bu he's forgotten how to tie his shoelaces
/pats my nice comfy slippersThe brain is like a vessel. It has a certain capacity to hold stuff, and when its full, somthing has to be removed so that something else can fit in.
Cyberface, knows loads of facts about watches. Bu he's forgotten how to tie his shoelaces
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