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Red Firecracker

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5,346 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Hate to say it, it looks rather nice in the new livery and chromatic roof;



Surprise to see Brabs in there as well.

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haggy

1,955 posts

243 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Should be an awesome race this year!!

//j17

5,064 posts

252 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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9 drivers for two 3-man cars...?

Will we see a 3-car Pug. effort this year but with only two confirmed spaces (so waiting/expecting to buy up a grid slot from someone that runs shourt of funds)?

Red Firecracker

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5,346 posts

256 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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//j17 said:
9 drivers for two 3-man cars...?

Will we see a 3-car Pug. effort this year but with only two confirmed spaces (so waiting/expecting to buy up a grid slot from someone that runs shourt of funds)?
Teams are limited to a 2 car entry, hence last years entries for both Audi and Peugeot;

1 Audi Sport North America (Joest) Audi R10 TDi
2 Audi Sport North America (Joest) Audi R10 TDi
3 Audi Sport Team Joest - Audi R10 TDi

7 Team Peugeot Total - Peugeot 908 HDi
8 Team Peugeot Total - Peugeot 908 HDi
9 Team Peugeot Sport Total - Peugeot 908 HDi

Note the subtle team name changes.

I don't think either Audi or Peugeot will have trouble getting their required amount of entries.

Skywalker

3,269 posts

243 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Don't forget the Flying Lizards in GT2biggrindriving

Edited by Skywalker on Wednesday 11th February 20:55

Red Firecracker

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5,346 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Skywalker said:
Don't forget the Flying Lizards in GT2biggrindriving

Edited by Skywalker on Wednesday 11th February 20:55
Who are racing a Porsche.......... wink

(Although, yes, I agree, my favourite GT2 contenders.)

http://www.lizardms.com/index.htm

Edited by Red Firecracker on Wednesday 11th February 21:07

JayPee

1,032 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Go Peugeot! I hope they finally do it this year, would be good see the underdog finally win through. No disrespect to Audi, at this point they ARE Le Mans, but it would be nice to see a change at the top.

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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JayPee said:
Go Peugeot! I hope they finally do it this year
I think there will be few Englishmen not behind Aston's LMP1 challenge for outright victory. I really hope they put the oil burners where they belong - in the slow lane!

JayPee

1,032 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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peterguk V6 KWK said:
JayPee said:
Go Peugeot! I hope they finally do it this year
I think there will be few Englishmen not behind Aston's LMP1 challenge for outright victory. I really hope they put the oil burners where they belong - in the slow lane!
I agree, if that is quick and reliable enough then it would be great to see it on top, is it not still a fairly small outfit as well?

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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JayPee said:
is it not still a fairly small outfit as well?
Who, Aston Martin? Well, they're quite big...... wink

Kinky

39,939 posts

298 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Martin who?

hehe

The Leaper

5,666 posts

235 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Hey guys, great to see other Lizards fans on here !! I've been a big supporter of the Lizards since their first appearance (got the T shirts, etc). Le Mans is not a single race but several all in one period of 24 hours, and GT2, although it has been Porsche dominated for a long time, is where racing in the traditional sense still takes place IMHO.

R.

JayPee

1,032 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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peterguk V6 KWK said:
JayPee said:
is it not still a fairly small outfit as well?
Who, Aston Martin? Well, they're quite big...... wink
Was under the impression it was just an Aston Engine package powering the Charouz Systems LMP1 Lola in 2008, and as a team I thought they were fairly small, but maybe there is more input from from Aston this year?

peterguk V6 KWK

2,622 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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JayPee said:
Was under the impression it was just an Aston Engine package powering the Charouz Systems LMP1 Lola in 2008, and as a team I thought they were fairly small, but maybe there is more input from from Aston this year?
Lots more input. It's a factory car smile



Full story here:

http://www.astonmartin.com/thecompany/news?a=05eff...

Kinky

39,939 posts

298 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Plus a couple of pages of discussion here too:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

williamp

20,381 posts

302 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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peterguk V6 KWK said:
JayPee said:
Was under the impression it was just an Aston Engine package powering the Charouz Systems LMP1 Lola in 2008, and as a team I thought they were fairly small, but maybe there is more input from from Aston this year?
Lots more input. It's a factory car smile



Full story here:

http://www.astonmartin.com/thecompany/news?a=05eff...
Exactly. This, people is what we should be cheering at Le mans because:

1) Its not a diesel
2) Its a lola- Aston Martin, which means British
3) They cant afford to hire ex f1 drivers like Peugeot did in 08
4) Peugeot is a mass-manufacturer of shopping cars and reps cars
5) If the french win Le Mans, we'll never hear the end of it!

//j17

5,064 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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williamp said:
Exactly. This, people is what we should be cheering at Le mans because:

1) Its not a diesel
2) Its a lola- Aston Martin, which means British
3) They cant afford to hire ex f1 drivers like Peugeot did in 08
4) Peugeot is a mass-manufacturer of shopping cars and reps cars
5) If the french win Le Mans, we'll never hear the end of it!
Translation:
1) They are hoping to win by re-using an existing engine not pushing things forward by spending money on R&D in the spirit of Le Mans.
2) True, so?
3) They also hired specialist endurance racers link NM. And have you actually looked at the AM driver line-up recently - are you familiar with Mr Tomas Enge's racing history?
4) A car maker you say...racing in LMP1...the class aimed at car makers... Won't somebody think of the children!
5) True, but if Audi win again it will be as amusing for everyone else as last year.

Red Firecracker

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5,346 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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williamp said:
Exactly. This, people is what we should be cheering at Le mans because:


2) Its a lola- Aston Martin, which means British
No offence meant to you William, and I'm speaking generally, but that really gets my goat. Why should I be expected to support a team just because they are racing under the flag of my home nation (and there's a whole other story, the name may be British, but..)

It was the same last year, daring to say the GT1 car looked a bit naff in the Gulf-ish colours was met with silence and stares.

Personally I don't think Aston will win. Nowadays it's not the car or the driver that has the biggest impact on a win. To my mind it's the team and how that team reacts to situations in the race. Okay, if the car/driver is dog slow nothing is going to help (Tokai University anyone?) but it was ably demonstrated last year. Peugeot hit trouble and in the words of Hindy, the team went 'all Gallic'. Audi hit trouble and the team swing into action. That's what makes the difference.

And so, climbing down from the soapbox smile , it's only 14 days to wait to the ACO press conference to see if Rollcentre get an entry. Come on Shorty. biggrin

JayPee

1,032 posts

224 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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williamp said:
peterguk V6 KWK said:
JayPee said:
Was under the impression it was just an Aston Engine package powering the Charouz Systems LMP1 Lola in 2008, and as a team I thought they were fairly small, but maybe there is more input from from Aston this year?
Lots more input. It's a factory car smile



Full story here:

http://www.astonmartin.com/thecompany/news?a=05eff...
Exactly. This, people is what we should be cheering at Le mans because:

1) Its not a diesel
2) Its a lola- Aston Martin, which means British
3) They cant afford to hire ex f1 drivers like Peugeot did in 08
4) Peugeot is a mass-manufacturer of shopping cars and reps cars
5) If the french win Le Mans, we'll never hear the end of it!
1) Oh please get over the stupid I'm such a petrolhead I need all cars to emit loud shouty noises. LMP1 seems to suit a Diesel powerplant with its regulations (or did, not sure what changes have been made this year) so why moan every time somebody wants to make some progression. Motorsport should be the forefront of automotive technology, and whatever fuel type suits that discipline should be used and optimized
2) Are all parts British sourced and is the driver line-up all British? Unlikely. Just the Brand name.
3) As mentioned before, EX F1 doesn't necessarily mean best for this class
4) What was the BTCC in the 90's? a load of those manufacturers, and that was interesting?
5)I don't understand French so I probably won't be listening in the first place

Good on Aston for taking the LMP1 mission a step further though, it would be good to see them do well, but I personally doubt they will be able to match the pace of the Audi's or Pugs over the distance.

Moley RUFC

3,671 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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