One down........yeeeeeeeeesssss
One down........yeeeeeeeeesssss
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Adrian W

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15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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About time, lets hope he's only the first

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7883409.stm

JRM

2,065 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Adrian W said:
About time, lets hope he's only the first

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7883409.stm
About time the FSA took some responsibility

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.

Adrian W

Original Poster:

15,449 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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randlemarcus said:
So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.
Did he jump or was he pushed................what do you recon

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Adrian W said:
Did he jump or was he pushed................what do you recon
I'd suspect he jumped. I'd also suspect that most politicians will be wary about applying pressure to the FSA for things like this, in case their memos supporting light touch regulation start to float to the attention of the Fifth Estate

eldar

25,241 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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randlemarcus said:
So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.
Oddly yes. He made the mistake of shooting the messenger, and ignoring the message.

That said, it is refreshing to see seomeone admit their mistakes, and resign.

Skipppy

1,136 posts

239 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Gordon is getting an absolute roasting in the commons about this now.

As he should.

tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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"Paul Moore, the former head of risk at HBOS, said that Sir James fired him after he warned the bank had been expanding too fast. "

No point employing him if you are not going to listen!!! Doh.

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

276 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Adrian W said:
randlemarcus said:
So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.
Did he jump or was he pushed................what do you recon
I worked for a division he ran fifteen-odd years ago. He's as dry as a stick.

If there was absolutely no merit in the accusations then why would he resign from the FSA? I guess he can see what's coming next.

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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randlemarcus said:
So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.
The "whistleblower" from Halifax was sacked soon after he told them about the problems he foresaw..It does seem a tad suspicious especially as he was the Risk and Compliance chappy...

mechsympathy

58,536 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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tonyvid said:
"Paul Moore, the former head of risk at HBOS, said that Sir James fired him after he warned the bank had been expanding too fast. "

No point employing him if you are not going to listen!!! Doh.
Hmmm, not sure how much credence to give a bloke with an axe to grind...

singlecoil

35,825 posts

275 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Should resign his knighthood as well. Giving out these automatic honours should have been stopped a long time ago.

This is what he said about the allegations against him

Sir James said in his statement that HBOS had "extensively investigated" Mr Moore's allegations, concluding that they "had no merit".

I would like to think that if I was the boss and being investigated by my own organisation that they would find that allegations against me "had no merit".

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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mechsympathy said:
tonyvid said:
"Paul Moore, the former head of risk at HBOS, said that Sir James fired him after he warned the bank had been expanding too fast. "

No point employing him if you are not going to listen!!! Doh.
Hmmm, not sure how much credence to give a bloke with an axe to grind...
He actually told HBOS of the issues before being summarily sacked...he had no axe to grind as far as I can see...

JRM

2,065 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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randlemarcus said:
So the guy resigns as he feels that "without merit" accusations by a redundant HBOS employee affect his ability to be seen to do the FSA job (rather than actually affect his ability to do it), and you're celebrating?

Nice.
I didn't say that. I'm not interested in the accusations, but this guy is part of the management team at the FSA who have spoectacularly failed to do their job of regulating the markets properly. THAT'S why it's good that someone is taking some responsibility over there, good for him for having some morals

Invisible man

39,731 posts

313 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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randlemarcus said:
Adrian W said:
Did he jump or was he pushed................what do you recon
I'd suspect he jumped. I'd also suspect that most politicians will be wary about applying pressure to the FSA for things like this, in case their memos supporting light touch regulation start to float to the attention of the Fifth Estate
yes I can't help thinking that Broon roasting the Bankers is to fire a warning shot across the bows of the FSA and to deflect attention away from his own culpability.......or have I got that completely wrong?

mechsympathy

58,536 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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esselte said:
He actually told HBOS of the issues before being summarily sacked...he had no axe to grind as far as I can see...
It's easy to be wise after the event.

The Beeb article said:
Mr Moore told the BBC earlier this week that he saw evidence of "negligence" and even "recklessness" during his time at the bank.

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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mechsympathy said:
esselte said:
He actually told HBOS of the issues before being summarily sacked...he had no axe to grind as far as I can see...
It's easy to be wise after the event.

The Beeb article said:
Mr Moore told the BBC earlier this week that he saw evidence of "negligence" and even "recklessness" during his time at the bank.
On our local News (Look North) the guy was on and said he told the bank he was worried about what they were doing, part of his job really,and was ignored and later sacked..to me it looks like boss at Hbos knew what they were doing could be risky and they still carried on..obviously he saw nothing wrong as his leadership of the FSA shows...

Trommel

20,620 posts

288 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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esselte said:
The "whistleblower" from Halifax was sacked soon after he told them about the problems he foresaw..It does seem a tad suspicious especially as he was the Risk and Compliance chappy...
The bank is making a killing, everyone is getting huge bonuses and you're there telling everyone to stop investing in what's bringing all the cash in - how popular are you going to be?

Rather amusing that risk and compliance people are pretty much all the banks are hiring at the moment.

minimoog

7,395 posts

248 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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mechsympathy said:
esselte said:
He actually told HBOS of the issues before being summarily sacked...he had no axe to grind as far as I can see...
It's easy to be wise after the event.
I thought the whole point of this is that he was one of the few being wise during the event.

mechsympathy

58,536 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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minimoog said:
I thought the whole point of this is that he was one of the few being wise during the event.
So he says.