Advice Please RE: Personal License
Advice Please RE: Personal License
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anonymouse09

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7 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Openly & Honestly from the start, please can someone advise me on the below. Long post, reads a bit like a soap opera, but genuinely after some advice and support.

I was convicted for attempting and actually obtaining property by deception and going equipped to cheat (6 counts) in April 2006, after I pleaded guilty (knew I'd done wrong, but mitigated it as I was protecting partner and family from involvement) but claimed and was believed to be acting under duress (I'd had a gun stuck in my face a couple of times, so was fairly judged to be under duress). These offences took place in Jan 2005, I was bound over by magistrates to the crown court in Feb 2005 but because I agreed with the investigating officers to turn QE against the persons threatening me, I had to await sentencing until after the CPS brought the two persons to trial, this was decided by the sentencing judge when I originally went to be sentenced in April 2005, as to quote "I want to see you face your tormentors and see them brought to justice before you receive your own sentence, as this may impact the sentence I place on you". I and my family were disgusted by this, as he just about made the point that he would issue an absolute discharge should I help them get who they really wanted, but I was released on bail to go and live out of the country until the two were arrested.

Ultimately, 12 months passed, the two persons skipped bail (even though I have relocated 300 miles, I still look over my shoulder occasionally, as the officers from SOCA regularly keep in touch to see if I am still alive) so I was requested to return for sentencing to crown court, was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment, wholly suspended for 2 years, with each conviction to run concurrently. I didn't complain, I'd been a law abiding citizen before the offences, since the offences and planned to for the rest of my days to be so, so saw this as fair cop for not having the backbone for going to the police and saying what was going on.

So, now my convictions are disposed, I'm back in UK living and working again, and I've been given an opportunity to take over a pub by my boss (who knows my history), but I'm going to need a personal license. Because of the above, I have had the basic disclosure provided by Disclosure Scotland, which is all done in my new name (was advised to change name by SOCA after my sentencing if I planned to live in UK) and am about to send application to local authority. I know that the process involves the offences to be put in front of the local chief of police to object and that I then have the opportunity to appeal against (fairly obviously) the objection in front of magistrates. Do UKBF readers think that, with notice from SOCA officers (they have agreed to file a character reference if required) and the above circumstances, I have the chance of getting a license granted?

anonymouse09

Original Poster:

7 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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anyone?

Eric Mc

125,884 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Licence to do what?

anonymouse09

Original Poster:

7 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Personal License, as quite clearly marked at top of post, and in last paragraph about being offered the chance to run a pub.

Eric Mc

125,884 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Excuse my ignorance - but what is a Personal Licence? Also, is it "Licence" or "License" in this case i.e. is the "Licence" a piece of paper or is it "license" the verb?.

anonymouse09

Original Poster:

7 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Eric MC, personal license is what you need to hold to become a designated premises supervisor of a pub/convenience store/restaurant etc

Eric Mc

125,884 posts

296 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Many thanks. I was just wondering.

Why do you want to get into the pub trade? By all accounts it is a bit of a struggle at the moment.

anonymouse09

Original Poster:

7 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Not if you saw the deal on offer, and I was after more advice from maybe current or ex mags or police officers or possibly councilors.